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Continuation of HAZE and ark-adr's legal conversation re: MAME, etc.
Sjaak:
--- Quote from: ark_ader on August 09, 2013, 09:59:41 am ---
You will like this one Haze.
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I may have this all wrong, but isn't that article about reverse enigneering a game (or in this case a part of a game).
I always thought that Mame emulates hardware (like for example the Z80 processor) and not the actual games.
jdbailey1206:
No Sjaak. You're wrong. It emulates the hardware. Not the game....
Haze:
--- Quote from: Sjaak on August 09, 2013, 10:09:00 am ---
--- Quote from: ark_ader on August 09, 2013, 09:59:41 am ---
You will like this one Haze.
--- End quote ---
I may have this all wrong, but isn't that article about reverse enigneering a game (or in this case a part of a game).
I always thought that Mame emulates hardware (like for example the Z80 processor) and not the actual games.
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We figure out the hardware often by looking at the access patterns of the software trying to use that hardware. What we ship emulates the hardware.
The only high profile cases against emulation developed by such techniques have been lost by those pursuing them. I don't anticipate this changing no matter what fantasy world the trolls here want to live in.
Like I said, the guy has proven over and over again that he is a pure troll, this is the internet, you pull arguments from whatever 2-bit newspapers you want to support any argument you're trying to make, it doesn't make you big or clever, it just makes you an ass, as saint has said himself. In 17 years the closest Mamedev have come to any actual legal issue is the case with David Foley and the trademark and that would have been started by us had it needed to go that far.
mcseforsale:
--- Quote from: Haze on August 09, 2013, 10:13:35 am ---
--- Quote from: Sjaak on August 09, 2013, 10:09:00 am ---
--- Quote from: ark_ader on August 09, 2013, 09:59:41 am ---
You will like this one Haze.
--- End quote ---
I may have this all wrong, but isn't that article about reverse enigneering a game (or in this case a part of a game).
I always thought that Mame emulates hardware (like for example the Z80 processor) and not the actual games.
--- End quote ---
We figure out the hardware often by looking at the access patterns of the software trying to use that hardware. What we ship emulates the hardware.
--- End quote ---
this part fascinates me ^^
Sjaak:
--- Quote from: jdbailey1206 on August 09, 2013, 10:13:15 am ---No Sjaak. You're wrong. It emulates the hardware. Not the game....
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That's what I thought.
I don't see the legal issues with emulating hardware (from a common sense point of view).
In fact, in my line of work we sometimes use commercial terminal emulation software on windows to access legacy systems because nobody has a working VT-100 terminal anymore. This software emulates all kinds of stone age terminals.
This emulation software is used by hospitals, airlines, etc. to access legacy systems, which would otherwise become unusable.