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Haze:


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--- Quote from: mcseforsale on August 07, 2013, 02:57:29 pm ---From Mamedev.org "legal" section (if you want to call dodgeball legal)

Q. Can my non-profit use MAME or an arcade cabinet running MAME to help raise money?
A. No, sorry. Even for the most worthwhile cause, this still is a commercial use of MAME and is prohibited by the license.

So, Mame's off the counter. 

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And it looks like the 60in1 is back in contention considering...... :banghead:

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You're an idiot.  The 60-in-1s are not in contention and never will be.


saint:

Morality/Philosophy discussion forked: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,133844.0.html

xx-in-1 products are illegal AFAIK because they have not acquired licenses for the ROMs bundled in the product. There is one notable exception where you install your own ROMs on the board. In that case, the legality would lie on whether or not *you* acquired the ROMs legally and have the legal right to sell them in this cabinet. I'm fairly certain that the answer to that will be no, making it a moot point, but technically there is one xx-in-1 board that I think is possibly legal. I don't know if it uses MAME code and if violating the MAME EULA constitutes a legal violation or just a moral violation, but that's irrelevant for this discussion anyway. Your desire for a legal option lives and dies on the legality of the ROMs.  xx-in-1 doesn't meet your criteria.



Robedias27:

Thanks very much for your opinions and information. I DO maintain a strict moral code when it comes to this stuff. The Children's home is very closely associated with my church, so even if I thought I could get away with something, I'm representing a group bigger than myself. Regardless it appears I only have potentially 3 options?...

1. Purchase and refurb an old cab
2. Construct a new cab for an old board?
3. Construct a new cab and only use modern windows games? (3 or 4 arcade type games) <-scratch nostalgia factor

This thread has confirmed for me that ROM's are not an option. Thanks again for the conversation. (additional comments welcome)

BadMouth:


--- Quote from: Robedias27 on August 08, 2013, 08:20:10 am ---3. Construct a new cab and only use modern windows games? (3 or 4 arcade type games) <-scratch nostalgia factor

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I should have elaborated above when I mentioned that the Midway Arcade Treasures games could be launched individually and fullscreen.
That means they can be launched by a front-end just like MAME games and would provide the same experience (depending on how good the port is vs emulation in MAME, but most people wouldn't know the difference).  I'm assuming at least some of the other collections can be used the same way, but it may be a PITA to figure out the fullscreen command line switch.

I was going to post a link to buy it, but couldn't find any at reasonable prices.  ???

I think I still have the Deluxe version if you would like to go this route.  If you do, I'll mail it to you.
I bought it for the racing games that aren't playable on emulators, but it turns out that half of them don't support analog controls like steering wheels.
The upside for you would be that these same games were tweaked to work well with keyboard or joystick instead.

MAT3Deluxe includes:
APB
Arch Rivals
Badlands
Championship Sprint
Cyberball 2072
Gauntlet II
Hard Drivin’
Kozmik Krooz'r
Hydro Thunder
Mortal Kombat
Mortal Kombat II
Mortal Kombat 3
NARC
Offroad Thunder
Pit-Fighter
Primal Rage
Race Drivin
Rampage World Tour
San Francisco Rush 2049
San Francisco Rush the Rock: Alcatraz Edition
S.T.U.N. Runner
Super Off Road with bonus Track-Pak
Timber
Total Carnage
Wacko
Wizard of Wor
Xenophobe
Xybots


Vigo:

1. Purchase and refurb an old cab
I would try to find a fully working cab and clean and fix it up cosmetically. Also doesn't hurt to try to get something very common so you are not stuck trying to find rare parts. For a first project, I would at least make sure the arcade monitor is in good condition. fill any dents and repaint the sides, get some new artwork printed, some fresh t-molding, get some shiny new buttons and joysticks, and you will probably have an auction worthy cabinet.

2. Construct a new cab for an old board?
This is done plenty. I'd recommend something like a pacman cocktail, those seem to have pretty mass appeal. 

3. Construct a new cab and only use modern windows games? (3 or 4 arcade type games) <-scratch nostalgia factor
This is my recommendation. You don't need to scratch the nostalgia factor if you don't want to. You can theme your cab however you want, and put in whatever games you want. And like BadMouth said, you can legally put on classic arcade games via those "arcade collection" games. It also leaves the door open for the person buying the machine to put on their own roms if they like, or add whatever games they like. You can also use stuff like an LCD monitor that is gonna be much easier to work with and easier to find. Another route you could take is having the cab run a console like an xbox 360 or PS3. It takes away the element that you have to worry about the buyer running into PC troubles. Buy a console, download Pacman championship edition for 10 bucks, and let the buyer worry about adding any other games they want.

If you plan on doing this more than just one year, you consider building a simple design cab like my vigolix for your first year.
And I know I end up over-recommending my build, but it is a great beginner project.

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,119533.0.html

I scrounged, but it only cost me around $100. I also put it together over just a couple weekends. After doing something like this, you will be much more primed for a bigger project during the next year. Full builds tend to take much longer than planned, and I can be very hard working against a deadline.



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