Mario Kart Arcade GP series and F-Zero AX

[marioxb]

So..  what is the status of playing these at home on a softmodded Wii? It's a little hard to find any good details online.

Which Mario Karts work (1? 2?) What features work or don't work on these and F-Zero AX?

I have a softmodded Wii with the Homebrew Channel. I'm not asking where to find the roms/ ISOs, just what do I need to do once I do find them? With F-Zero, do you have to use the GameCube disc for this to work or is there an arcade rom/ ISO that works better?

[SegaOutrun]

I believe they work in Dolphin with some modification but, not sure about on an actual wii

[DarthMarino]

Mario Kart Arcade GP 2 works very well on Dolphin.  The first game is almost the same thing but it's missing a few things.  I haven't checked in a while to see if F-Zero was working.

[SegaOutrun]

i looked into it and there something called quadforce to make it work on a modded wii.

I had forgotten about these games and ill prob added them to cab today.

Thanks for reminding me and goodluck.

================================================== ============================
quadforce v 4.0 by crediar - 12th May 2013
================================================== ============================

quadforce allows you to run the Trifoce arcarde games Mario Kart GP, GP 2,
Virtua Striker Ver. 2006 and F-Zero AX on a Wii from an SD card.

quadforce can not run any GameCube games.

No other Triforce games are supported or will be in the future.

There will be no source, this project is not based on DML in any way and
isn't using any GPL code.


Changelog:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

v4.0:

*Added Virtua Striker 4 Ver. 2006 JAPAN and EXPORT support with local two
player support.

v3.0:

*Fixed a crash in F-Zero AX that occurred on newer systems
*Added CARD support for Mario Kart GP 1&2
*Added patch for unlimited CARD usage for Mario Kart GP 1&2
*Added Reset/Shutdown via button combo (R + Z + Start) (R + Z + B + D-Pad Down)
has to be enabled via config
*Increased deadzone of L/R for F-Zero AX

v2.0:

*Added F-Zero AX support
*Added cheating/debugging support, requires sd:/sneek/kenobigc.bin
*Added patch for MK1&2 and F-Zero AX to always have 1 credit
*quadforce no longer cares about the config version


Installtion:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Real-NAND:
*Simply use any WAD installer of your choice and install the quadforce.wad

EMU-NAND:
*When using SNEEK r195 or higher you can copy the quadforce.bin to:

sd:/sneek/quadforce.bin

otherwise you have to copy it to:

sd:/title/00000001/00000100/content/00000008.app (When using MIOSv10)


===================================================================================================
UPDATE: PC/Cab info
===================================================================================================

Well that was more painless than I thought. For any Cab/PC owner, all you need to do is download the triforce version of Dolphin (im using Dolphin Triforce 3.0-694 x64), the mario gp 2 game and then edit the game ini to play it.

BTW: As far as I know, f-zero ax (triforce version) is not playable on triforce dolphin but, you can unlock the whole AX game using an F-zero GX (gamecube iso) and an action replay cheat code in the regular version of Dolphin

to edit the mario gp2 ini
1. goto \Dolphin Triforce 3.0-694 x64\User\GameConfig
2. open the file that belongs to your gameid (the name of your downloaded game)
3. edit and replace the ini with

[Core] Values set here will override the main dolphin settings.
[Display]
ProgressiveScan = 0
[Wii]
Widescreen = 0
DisableWiimoteSpeaker = 0
[Video]
ProjectionHack = 0
PH_SZNear = 1
PH_SZFar = 0
PH_ExtraParam = 0
PH_ZNear =
PH_ZFar =
[EmuState] The Emulation State. 1 is worst, 5 is best, 0 is not set.
EmulationStateId = 1
EmulationIssues = AM-Baseboard
[OnFrame] Add memory patches to be applied every frame here.
+$DVDInquiry Patchok
0x80286388:dword:0x3C602100
0x8028638C:dword:0x4E800020
+$Ignore CMD Encryption
0x80285CD0:dword:0x93A30008
0x80285CD4:dword:0x93C3000C
0x80285CD8:dword:0x93E30010
+$Disable CARD
0x80073BF4:dword:0x98650023
0x80073C10:dword:0x98650023
+$Disable CAM
0x80073BD8:dword:0x98650025
+$Seat Loop patch
0x800BE10C:dword:0x4800002C
+$Stuck loop patch
0x8002E100:dword:0x60000000
+$60times Loop patch
0x8028B5D4:dword:0x60000000
+$GameTestMode Patch
0x8002E340:dword:0x60000000
0x8002E34C:dword:0x60000000
+$SeatLoopPatch
0x80084FC4:dword:0x4800000C
0x80085000:dword:0x60000000
[ActionReplay] Add action replay cheats here.
[Gecko]

[marioxb]

Well wouldn't they play better on GameCube/Wii rather than a PC, since the Triforce is supposedly based on that?

[SegaOutrun]

I actually have a wii in my cab but, i prob wont go through the trouble of installing/trying quadforce. The only game im interested in is mariokart gp and it plays fine on the pc. 

This is on wii so, I would say yes, it plays better since it actually play f-zero ax

[marioxb]

What about two (or more) players? Any way to link PCs and/or Wiis?

[BadMouth]

Gotta try this again.  I messed with it back when news first broke that it was running, but I couldn't get it going.
Hopefully newer versions don't require so much finagling.

[marioxb]

I think I may get a spare Wii just for this! I can also play the Cruis'n (AKA Raw Thrills Fast & the Furious) Wii game and maybe more on this.

[Fursphere]

I'm pretty sure the Logitech G27 wheel does *NOT* work with the Nintendo Wii (I have one, I can test if I get a free moment). 

So..  even if you do get this running on a Wii, how are you going to control it?  WiiMote?  Ya..  no thanks.

That's why Dolphin (and its Triforce arcade brand) was so attractive...   it doesn't care what controller you use. 

[marioxb]

Actually, it seems Quadforce only works with GameCube controllers, so I guess that means a GameCube wheel would work for it.

[tron84]

I play Mario Kart GP on Dolphin Tri force on the PC.  There is still some problems on F-Zero, only one person has the code for it for the card reader problem on Tri force.  They need some people to work on it, to get it going right.

BUT this here is very cool.  You can unlock F-Zero AX tri force on the Gamecube, it is hidden 

http://www.retrocollect.com/News/hackers-find-f-zero-arcade-game-hidden-in-nintendo-gamecubes-f-zero-gx.html

[tron84]

What about two (or more) players? Any way to link PCs and/or Wiis?

I have tried to link Mario Kart GP on Dolphin Tri force on two PC's.  It was a no go, it did not have us in the same race. 
Now, Sega Model2 Daytona that works like a champ in Link mode.  That also works with tungle(online) in link mode, smooth like butter.  I race with my buddy states away.

[sairuk]

Got this running the last couple of days, the latest version of Quadforce is 4.1 which adds USB device support as well as SD.

The MKGP2 game is very laggy through the loading/select screens on the wii. Originally I thought it was related to SD loading (first try with QF4.0) but this was not the case. NB: Installing quadforce also breaks the standard Gamecube compatibility of your wii.

I will probably end up running this on dolphin triforce instead, advantage being you can also use any PC wheel with it.

[SegaOutrun]

What about two (or more) players? Any way to link PCs and/or Wiis?

I have tried to link Mario Kart GP on Dolphin Tri force on two PC's.  It was a no go, it did not have us in the same race. 
Now, Sega Model2 Daytona that works like a champ in Link mode.  That also works with tungle(online) in link mode, smooth like butter.  I race with my buddy states away.

Is there a write up on tungle? how many people can you link?

[tron84]

What about two (or more) players? Any way to link PCs and/or Wiis?

I have tried to link Mario Kart GP on Dolphin Tri force on two PC's.  It was a no go, it did not have us in the same race. 
Now, Sega Model2 Daytona that works like a champ in Link mode.  That also works with tungle(online) in link mode, smooth like butter.  I race with my buddy states away.

Is there a write up on tungle? how many people can you link?

Sorry OP, I was not trying a hijack.

Ok, I assume you already know how to set up  Sega model2.
Tungle will work with all model2 link games, not just Daytona.  It also works with Supermodel3, Daytona2 
Just remember to in Tungle, the person hosting the game in Daytona.  That is the Master, the other players have to be set on Slave & have a different car/machine ID#’s. Also that they are set to the same region for Model2 for link mode.

For Tungle:
Open/forward port  11155 for Tungle.
After you have installed Tungle, I go into the MISC.  in network explorer.  Then I go into Game emulators. To make my room in there.
It will give you a virtual IP # in the bottom left screen.  The person who you are going to race with will need this virtual IP # since you will be hosting the game.
The other person will need to go into your room you made.  Once you are both in there, you launch Daytona.
Now, thou I go and set up Daytona 1st, the other player should also.  Master/slave, regions, car/machine ID#.  IF those are NOT set right it will not work.  If setting up model2 in tungle, after setup.  Relanch Model2 Daytona.

Now a very import step for Model2:
In your Model2 folder, you have a M2network cfg file.
Open to edit the: NEXTIP=  this will be the vip# of the peson hosting the game. The vip#, the one Tungle gives you because you created a vpn.
It took me and my buddy a minute to figure this out on Model2 but we got it going.  Works like a champ.
Nascar 2003 works in tungle too & NFS shift.  No slow downs……

You asked how many people can it do.  I have only done it with two but Daytona has 8 links.  So it should do it as long as the people have it set up right, the 8 racers.  That would be like the old days with 8 linked 
Cheers & happy racing.  If you need a racer in there let me know, Sega Daytona model2 Rocks.
You can use Mumble to chat on Daytona to you buds, no slow down.

So I hope my write was clear enough.

[Nuexzz]

It also works with Supermodel3, Daytona2 

 sure?

[tron84]

It also works with Supermodel3, Daytona2 

 sure?

Yes, I play it in there in link mode.  That is why I said that.

[Nuexzz]

simply configure one master and one slave? without any configuration file?

go there!! Tunngle

network in which we find ourselves?

[tron84]

It also works with Supermodel3, Daytona2 

 sure?

It got late last night Nuexzz, it was almost 3am.
But here is the proof you wanted from the developer they fixed the network board for Daytona2 & Scud racer. You can play linked in Model3 Daytona2.   It is in the Supermodel 0.3a only not in Supermodel 0.2a

http://www.supermodel3.com/WhatsNew.html

Cheers

[Nuexzz]

ho surprised me with the news, I did not know.. 

[marioxb]

OK, so let me get this straight. It seems the best way to run Mario Kart GP 2 (and 1?) is on a PC and the best way to run F-Zero AX is on a GameCube or Wii? And for F-Zero, you can run AX using cheat codes via the GX disc or run the actual arcade ISO? I think running the game via GX is not perfect though. I heard it crashes after each race? Maybe running the actual arcade ISO would work better?

[Fursphere]

F-Zero GX runs decently on Dolphin, but can crash and has severe studder issues occasionally.  (so bad I won't play it).  You can use cheat codes in Dolphin to enable the AX maps I believe - but its *not* the arcade experience from what I understand.  Just the maps.

Mario kart GP 1/2 supposedly runs fine on Dolphin - I just haven't been able to find the arcade ISOs yet.  I know Mario Kart Double Dash (GameCube) and Wii play fine on Dolphin.  Which is cool because I can use my Logitech G27 to play.

As far as the Wii hack to run the Triforce emulator - I'm not sure what's required.   Although I have a Wii in the garage, so it might be worth investigating.  (although I won't be able to use my Logitech G27 ...  so that sucks)

[SegaOutrun]

funny enough gp1 is not playable on dolphin triforce but, GGPE02.zip aka gp2 is playable. double dash and mario kart wii also play fine. For mario wii, you have to check the box to make wii controller to sideways in the controller config to play nice with your wheel (took a me a bit to figure it out)

I havent tryed it yet but, they also made a retro/wii channel version mario kart 64 that should work in dolphin as well. 

[tron84]

Yea sorry, I just call it Mario Kart GP but GP 1 is not playable yet.  Just GP2 is playable on Tri force.
But yes it is best to play it on pc, Dolphin Tri force build. 
I use the Tri force 3.0-694 build.  I can run it at 60FPS & 100% speed on my pc.
Amd X555 3.2 BE & 8 gigs ram & a nvidia Gefore210 w/ 1 gb ram.

[Fursphere]

I couldn't get it working..  kept getting an ISO error.  Maybe I got a bad rip.

[tron84]

I couldn't get it working..  kept getting an ISO error.  Maybe I got a bad rip.

What Tri force build are you using?

[SegaOutrun]

did u add the cheat code? look at my original post above, you need to add a cheat code to add coins. otherwise it will be a black sceen

[Fursphere]

Build is 737 I think.

I don't even get a blank screen - it just crashes.

[tron84]

Build is 737 I think.

I don't even get a blank screen - it just crashes.

If it is build 737 that is Dolphin not the Dolphin Triforce build.  The latest Dolphin Triforce build is 3.0-697.  They are two different things Dolphin is for Wii & GC.  The Triforce is for Triforce games(but will run others).  A Triforce iso will not run on Dolphin, only on the Dolphin Triforce build.
I tried the 697 build, on my system the 694 runs better for me.

[Fursphere]

Yup, got that much (my normal Dolphin emulator plays GC and Wii games just fine )

I've got the 697 build too - I'll try that one tonight.

I must have grabbed one of the other distro builds.  (silly me!)

[marioxb]

OK, so I think then I will play Mario Kart Arcade GP 2 on on Dolphin Triforce PC with a Logitech G27 wheel and Mario Kart Arcade GP 1 and F-Zero AX (the real one) on a modded Wii via Quadforce with a Logitech GameCube wheel. I am a completionist. I need to play both Mario Karts.

[SegaOutrun]

Yup, got that much (my normal Dolphin emulator plays GC and Wii games just fine )

I've got the 697 build too - I'll try that one tonight.

I must have grabbed one of the other distro builds.  (silly me!)

694 worked better for me too, i would recommend that one over 697

[Fursphere]

I got 697 running the game - and during further research - apparently this build breaks the ability to use items in game!  lol

So I'm looking for 694 right now...  lol

[arquillos]

Hi!
   I´ve got Mario Kart GP 2 running fine with Dolphin 3.0-694 and I´ve just download and installed the las Triforce version: 4.0-315.
   I´ve installed this new version I´d like to run Mario Kart GP 1 and 2 (to94 vo) but I can´t get it to work

   Both games starts with a "Device checking" screen and kept "stuck" checking for the wheel.
   In my old 694 version GP 1  doesn´t work and GP 2 works Ok and I don´t see this "new" screen 315 version is showing.

   Any ideas how to bypass this screen?

Thank you in advance!!!

[SegaOutrun]

hmm i didnt know they were still updating this. I use 694 because its the only one the works. Btw you do know that gp2 have everything gp1 had right? its just an expansion, not a different game. every level in gp1 is in gp2. But I am intrigued if f-zero is playable. i will try out when I get to back home and I will update if needed.

Update:i went to the forums and saw this post. You can try that to see if you can get gp2 to boot in 4.0. Once again I will test when im home tonight. Also F-zero , while being worked on, is still listed as broken.

You need this in the ini now (new format)

[OnFrame]
$99 credits
0x80690AC0:dword:0x00000063
$DVDInquiry Patchok
0x80286388:dword:0x3C602100
0x8028638C:dword:0x4E800020
$Ignore CMD Encryption
0x80285CD0:dword:0x93A30008
0x80285CD4:dword:0x93C3000C
0x80285CD8:dword:0x93E30010
$Disable CARD
0x80073BF4:dword:0x98650023
0x80073C10:dword:0x98650023
$Disable CAM
0x80073BD8:dword:0x98650025
$Seat Loop patch
0x800BE10C:dword:0x4800002C
$Stuck loop patch
0x8002E100:dword:0x60000000
$60times Loop patch
0x8028B5D4:dword:0x60000000
$GameTestMode Patch
0x8002E340:dword:0x60000000
0x8002E34C:dword:0x60000000
$SeatLoopPatch
0x80084FC4:dword:0x4800000C
0x80085000:dword:0x60000000
$Voice Off
0x801B6510:dword:0x38800000
[OnFrame_Enabled]
$99 credits
$DVDInquiry Patchok
$Ignore CMD Encryption
$Disable CARD
$Disable CAM
$Seat Loop patch
$Stuck loop patch
$60times Loop patch
$GameTestMode Patch
$SeatLoopPatch
$Voice Off

[isamu]

If you want to play F-ZeroAX, the full arcade game is 100% unlockable in F-ZeroGX. There's a way to unlock it using Action Replay codes. I remember unlocking it a long time ago and yes, it's the full game. Forgot the codes though

[arquillos]

If you want to play F-ZeroAX, the full arcade game is 100% unlockable in F-ZeroGX. There's a way to unlock it using Action Replay codes. I remember unlocking it a long time ago and yes, it's the full game. Forgot the codes though

Thank you for the info but ob GC you UNLOCK just the AX maps!

[arquillos]

hmm i didnt know they were still updating this. I use 694 because its the only one the works. Btw you do know that gp2 have everything gp1 had right? its just an expansion, not a different game. every level in gp1 is in gp2. But I am intrigued if f-zero is playable. i will try out when I get to back home and I will update if needed.

Update:i went to the forums and saw this post. You can try that to see if you can get gp2 to boot in 4.0. Once again I will test when im home tonight. Also F-zero , while being worked on, is still listed as broken.

You need this in the ini now (new format)

[OnFrame]
$99 credits
0x80690AC0:dword:0x00000063
$DVDInquiry Patchok
0x80286388:dword:0x3C602100
0x8028638C:dword:0x4E800020
$Ignore CMD Encryption
0x80285CD0:dword:0x93A30008
0x80285CD4:dword:0x93C3000C
0x80285CD8:dword:0x93E30010
$Disable CARD
0x80073BF4:dword:0x98650023
0x80073C10:dword:0x98650023
$Disable CAM
0x80073BD8:dword:0x98650025
$Seat Loop patch
0x800BE10C:dword:0x4800002C
$Stuck loop patch
0x8002E100:dword:0x60000000
$60times Loop patch
0x8028B5D4:dword:0x60000000
$GameTestMode Patch
0x8002E340:dword:0x60000000
0x8002E34C:dword:0x60000000
$SeatLoopPatch
0x80084FC4:dword:0x4800000C
0x80085000:dword:0x60000000
$Voice Off
0x801B6510:dword:0x38800000
[OnFrame_Enabled]
$99 credits
$DVDInquiry Patchok
$Ignore CMD Encryption
$Disable CARD
$Disable CAM
$Seat Loop patch
$Stuck loop patch
$60times Loop patch
$GameTestMode Patch
$SeatLoopPatch
$Voice Off

Thank you! But I get the same "Device checking" screen at GP 1 and GP2
dolphin-Triforce v4.0-315 it´s not really working

[SegaOutrun]

It just crashes for me on 4.0. which okay because it plays fine on 694. No need to update yet.

I think there is two different codes for AX, one just unlocks the maps (you get them once you beat the game) and another code is for the whole AX game. I tried it yesterday and after the start screen it boots directly into AX. I can tell because a it gives me instructions on how to use the steering wheel in the racing cabinet and it only gives me the option to race or time trials (in GX you get a lot of extra options)

quick update: I check some youtube videos and confirmed that i am correct. one code get you the ax cup added to gx and the code below boot you into ax only and directly.

this is the code i used for ntsc

61TA-AXPK-UAV9E
EHJV-6U30-2DTVE
NBCW-U1NV-0JDJG
HK7K-0RFW-FNQ8Y
PF4U-P5D0-862X1
7HUZ-2PJY-J5TTU
Q7PM-1678-XE7FW
YW2J-AUVE-R79V8
T6UV-03PE-1H26C
R91R-1A6J-ZXN30
1GHM-VQ7W-7HBWW

[isamu]

I think there is two different codes for AX, one just unlocks the maps (you get them once you beat the game) and another code is for the whole AX game. I tried it yesterday and after the start screen it boots directly into AX. I can tell because a it gives me instructions on how to use the steering wheel in the racing cabinet and it only gives me the option to race or time trials (in GX you get a lot of extra options)

quick update: I check some youtube videos and confirmed that i am correct. one code get you the ax cup added to gx and the code below boot you into ax only and directly.

this is the code i used for ntsc

61TA-AXPK-UAV9E
EHJV-6U30-2DTVE
NBCW-U1NV-0JDJG
HK7K-0RFW-FNQ8Y
PF4U-P5D0-862X1
7HUZ-2PJY-J5TTU
Q7PM-1678-XE7FW
YW2J-AUVE-R79V8
T6UV-03PE-1H26C
R91R-1A6J-ZXN30
1GHM-VQ7W-7HBWW

Thanks for confirming this dude. I knew I wasn't crazy 

[SegaOutrun]

Update 7/25/14:

I revisited Fzero AX now that i have a setup strong enough to play and I also came across a new AR that unlocks more AX than the original Code I posted. The best part of the new code is that it has a F-zero AX title screen and other stuff like videos showing the AX license.

This is the new AR code for NTSC

JHC9-9756-UMX21
TR5B-67JQ-CJUZ4
0G41-HZF3-E6UEU
YPH6-QMTF-3X912
NFZ6-TVNN-YYXE6
T6V4-DK4T-MRT9W
WAMK-BCKF-DU5AM
0471-NQ45-74V68
AAVE-09RN-NW0J0
H6D4-7CCW-0PYFZ
86GQ-E9MN-K4X7N
XBE5-ZA73-8T2J7
BEMA-ZN9B-AWY4U
HBXV-AQCJ-P6CRQ
7URQ-39UN-TPXK1
K213-06NC-NP6T8
AAPV-CAUP-K9AA6
3XVR-DR68-K3HHN
BZY4-XACM-YKUJB
TX7B-6E37-YT2P6
QPJ6-9JTC-ACQ9R
A42C-VR9K-YCAJD
3NC8-53ZH-KUH4M
KQ45-V3G9-94ZQ4
G79D-QNBM-5XDXH
5G1J-DYHX-79FJC
182Q-KMN7-XQQY6
ZTAM-H5K3-UGYWH
CXHW-4Z5Q-9EA18
T950-0KWY-4GXEJ
FXPF-F6B8-5G7B5
4JTX-BDKV-CX27K
0C2C-YKBN-15AJP
B1BD-46H5-G43AE
3B4R-RK5J-39KFQ
TYRX-A6Y7-00UT0
8YP4-A1PZ-TJ4TT
4BKK-T6HH-4CHXJ
AWDT-JXJH-K0DQP
U2KN-PHJQ-B48DE
YPWR-0AXF-3KEN2
N8MT-22D2-9XRRP
XZGG-6JH0-Q3Q7X
FH92-6QPW-27Q1Q
BKFD-XBMK-33NXC
YCFH-2NAG-A641U
0HWU-453Y-C4MHH
QJH4-R2U1-2ZDVN
DUJJ-PF94-91W7D
J066-CEU9-EMZ0H
Z47Q-UTNQ-PNZBY
CRFZ-AF2E-QE1VU
X33Q-MN84-0JZB7
9M19-2RGU-KB5X9
X7EV-10C5-YJW4K
68DK-XXR2-4RHMG
4WHW-GDCZ-AGWYF
5MGC-38E1-DCF08
J14M-KK56-MBPJY
G0GA-JKN9-YRC9M
URFW-QGT2-9EU2A
8U3C-5EGQ-5UWZP

and this one is for PAL

B9EK-HMW1-N0J5M
JZGZ-CB5W-XA8D2
0G41-HZF3-E6UEU
YPH6-QMTF-3X912
NFZ6-TVNN-YYXE6
2YGF-4HCF-UEHXD
WAMK-BCKF-DU5AM
0471-NQ45-74V68
AAVE-09RN-NW0J0
H6D4-7CCW-0PYFZ
5R1N-84Y8-ET3TX
XBE5-ZA73-8T2J7
7T96-Y6A6-WYJMN
U16D-4F18-D7R56
5YKQ-J6C0-C703A
4APT-WRH1-0YT3X
Y9N7-QUGR-067WH
0YQ4-1D4V-8C3PF
0NZ5-F6RB-4CYCQ
19K5-M7B0-FX20U
WT4T-UFB0-M58FU
R6NH-Z8YR-08TGH
0U7X-CHH7-38JB8
7WC6-ZTWY-QUE9B
3XE7-QFZP-2072Z
DPT0-MMWQ-Y471B
29W8-9DEK-HH50A
FM21-RNNM-5TCBV
9YNV-HJ5X-BQQ5Y
78PE-09GX-8TJZ9
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[Howard_Casto]

I'm not sure if I should cross-post or not. 

So I mentioned in the other thread that I was having issues.  Well apparently now is a good time to monkey with dolphin because they are releasing new builds hourly. 

With some tweaking I got the AX version to run reasonably well on my system using the latest build.  Apparently they fixed the sound stuttering issues... it was an emulation bug, and I get around 45-50 fps.  That's with some minor graphical enhancements as well.

The only problem now is the game is extremely unstable... I don't know if it's the AR codes or what but I've yet to finish a race without a crash. 

[SegaOutrun]

its one of your setting. when researching i remember reading the wiki saying if (blank) is checked, it will be unstable.

yup, turn off v-sync to make it stable

https://wiki.dolphin-emu.org/index.php?title=F-Zero_GX#Configuration

Config   Setting   Notes
V-Sync        Off             Crashes inevitable crashes



also turning on "Skip EFB Access from CPU" in enhancements helps too. i dont know what that does but i feel like it made it smoother

[Howard_Casto]

It wasn't the vsync, but some other stuff...  I'll post a full settings list tomorrow as it took me a good hour to get things right. 

[MrThunderwing]

Even more F-Zero GX fun you can have with AR codes...









F Zero GX - Beta All Cup (Mission

Codes and further links to them are in the video descriptions.

It's also possible to see the real F-Zero AX attract mode from the actual arcade ISO using the Triforce Dolphin build and AR codes - you can tell it's the proper arcade version because the music is slightly different. Unfortunately the game itself isn't playable. Yet...



It's also possible to get as far as selecting a ship and reaching a track with the proper AX iso in the Triforce build, again using AR codes, but once you reach the track none of the controls work.

[isamu]

That is absolutely awesome! Thanks for posting those dude.

[POOTERMAN]

Guys just a quick question please. I've been trying all day to get the Arcade AX version of F-Zero working in the Triforce build of Dolphin.

I've only just spotted the comment that "once you reach the track none of the controls work" and this is the problem I was having too so it's a relief to know that it's not just me and it's not down to the fact that I haven't configured the game correctly. It is however really frustrating that all controls work in navigating the menus and starting the game, it's just that you can't control the damn ship!!

Does anyone know if this problem is fixed yet or if indeed anyone is working on it or is it simply a case that the arcade version of F-Zero AX won't ever work due to unemulated hardware controls?

Thanks

[Boomslang]

I believe it's only playable if you load Dolphin build and load F Zero GX and use AR codes to make it into F Zero AX.

[SegaOutrun]

correct. there is only 2 ways to play ax at the moment. Using a special bios on a modified wii and cheat unlocked out of the GX game. The dolphin triforce seems abandoned atm.

In other good news, according to the Dolphin emu September progress report, Fzero Gx is now 110% more optimized than before so, it ran sluggish on your pc before, you should give it a try with the latest dolphin builds. i like going to emucr.com for precompiled daily builds of emus

[MrThunderwing]

In other good news, according to the Dolphin emu September progress report, Fzero Gx is now 110% more optimized than before so, it ran sluggish on your pc before, you should give it a try with the latest dolphin builds. i like going to emucr.com for precompiled daily builds of emus

Oooh, good news. Hopefully no more stuttering audio. Really hoping the DEMUL devs manage to do something similar with the Hikaru emulation just to give me that extra little performance boost to get the games from 50fps to 60. Especially now that Star Wars Podracer game's going to be playable.

[POOTERMAN]

Have they said when we can expect to see the next release of Demul?

I was expecting it in September so hopefully now October is here it will turn up soon.

[SegaOutrun]

Have they said when we can expect to see the next release of Demul?

I was expecting it in September so hopefully now October is here it will turn up soon.

i hope its soon but, theres has been alot added to demul so imagine it may be a bit longer. I havent posted it here because it hasnt been racing related but in the last few weeks, theyve added a ton of games and they even added a new system in the last few days(only one tetris game is playable but still). One thing i didnt know was that the current demul version has some win ce support for dreamcast which means sega rally 2 is sorta playable. nulldc does not have any win ce support. Hopefully the new version also improves its win ce support

[twistedsymphony]

Do either F-Zero AX or Mario Kart GP2 support force feedback? I remember reading that the Dolphin Emulator did but I haven't been able to find out if the hidden version of F-Zero AX supported it or if the Tri-Force version of Dolphin supported it.

[MrThunderwing]

Yep, it definitely works in both the regular version of GX and the hidden version of AX. Not sure about Mario Kart GP 2 though in the Tri-force build or indeed if FFB is supported at all in the build itself.

[twistedsymphony]

Thanks for confirming. that's great to hear! 

I'm still a LOOONG ways off from getting my Racing MAME setup going but these are two of the games I want to play most. 

[MrThunderwing]

Out of curiosity I fired up a bit of Mario Kart GP 2 for the first time in ages last night. I haven't set it up with my wheel, but the option to get rumble effects working is in the pad configuration settings of the Tri-Force build (which is what you use for FFB - set to 'constant' -in regular Dolphin). The rumble option didn't seem to do anything in-game (using a PS3 pad and DS3 tool), but it does work if you test it in the config settings, which makes me think that MKGP2 most likely doesn't have any FFB support.

[Boomslang]

what version of the emulator are you using? I have 4.0 something and it just crashes

You got the triforce build?

[MrThunderwing]

what version of the emulator are you using? I have 4.0 something and it just crashes

I'm using Dolphin 4.0 in the FFB video above. If you've got the 'dual core' option checked in the game properties, it does make the game more prone to frequent crashes (particularly if you're using video capture software and hacks), but without the option checked the game only runs at about 25 - 30 fps, so it's a bit of a catch-22 situation.

I've kept hold of my oldest build of Dolphin (r7690M), which seems to run F-Zero better in a lot of ways (smoother frame-rate, no audio stuttering, rarely crashes), but which unfortunately doesn't support any of the AX arcade game hacks (although I've got all the AX tracks unlocked in it the old fashioned way - by beating all the cups in Master mode).

The Triforce build I'm using for MKGP2 is 3.0-6.94 and the one for the (non-playable, but possible to see the attract mode) F-Zero AX ISO is 3.0-6.97.

[Andy_Bogard]

What about link mode? Did anyone get two player GrandPrix mode working accurately on two PCs?

What about two (or more) players? Any way to link PCs and/or Wiis?

[ant2]

To save someone else 2 hours of their life:
This doesn't seem to work on 4.0-315 or 4.0-314.
Definitely works under 4.0-697.

Some steps are missing from thisguide, ensure you enable cheats and change sp1 and port 1 to am-baseboard, otherwise it just crashes dolphin
I used this guide - which also lists the keys to configure.

[MrThunderwing]

This is a bit off-topic, but it's on a Mario Kart theme: Have you guys seen the amazing progress that's being made in Wii U emulation at the moment? I decided to get on-board and give it a try and this is how well Mario Kart 8 runs on my i5 presently.

2017 EDIT: The video I originally linked to here was hideously out of date and running quite slowly. I've changed it to a more recent and much better one (the improvements for me are from a combination of new GPU and massive improvements in the emulator itself). Amazing progress in such a short space of time!

! No longer available

[Howard_Casto]

It's impressive, but I can't even get gamecube games to run full speed, so I can't see the point atm.

[isamu]

This is a bit off-topic, but it's on a Mario Kart theme: Have you guys seen the amazing progress that's being made in Wii U emulation at the moment? I decided to get on-board and give it a try and this is how well Mario Kart 8 runs on my i5 presently.



Amazing progress in such a short space of time!

I read about this as well. Very impressive indeed. Though I'm not a wiiU fan, I wouldn't mind trying out that Fast Racing Neo title that they just came out with.

[marioxb]

F-Zero AX (the actual arcade ISO), Mario Kart Arcade GP and Mario Kart Arcade GP 2 (and the Virtua Strikers Triforce arcade games) now work 100% perfectly on the Wii and Wii U. And they aren't emulated, since the systems actually contain the GameCube brains, just like the arcade Triforce.

They even support other things, like Wii U Pro Controller (even on Wii), the official Nintendo GameCube to Wii controller adapter (even on Wii), and most USB controllers, most likely PC wheels too.

Mario Kart Arcade GP DX (the third game) is a Windows game, much like most newer games.

[gumby510]

I got Mario Kart GP 2 and I also just download and installed the last Triforce version: 4.0-315.
I´ve installed this new version I´d like to run Mario Kart gp2  but I can´t get it to work right

"Device checking" screen and kept "stuck" checking for the wheel I hit the button and it just loops in the service menu.


Any ideas how to bypass this screen? Or what version I can use? Tried looking for the older versions listed in this thread but the links are dead and gone.

Thank you in advance!!!

[MrThunderwing]

Off the top of my head, there's an option in the config you've got to set to something called "AM baseboard". Try that and see if it helps.

[gumby510]

I got it from following this video

I did not  paste that ini file in the proper location.

Thanks for the reply!

[twistedsymphony]

F-Zero AX (the actual arcade ISO), Mario Kart Arcade GP and Mario Kart Arcade GP 2 (and the Virtua Strikers Triforce arcade games) now work 100% perfectly on the Wii and Wii U.

If they work on the Wii does that mean they'll also work in the normal Dolphin emulator as well?

[MrThunderwing]

F-Zero AX (the actual arcade ISO), Mario Kart Arcade GP and Mario Kart Arcade GP 2 (and the Virtua Strikers Triforce arcade games) now work 100% perfectly on the Wii and Wii U.

If they work on the Wii does that mean they'll also work in the normal Dolphin emulator as well?

I don't think so. Those game have been playable on the Wii for quite a long time using the Quadforce mod.

[isamu]

F-Zero AX (the actual arcade ISO), Mario Kart Arcade GP and Mario Kart Arcade GP 2 (and the Virtua Strikers Triforce arcade games) now work 100% perfectly on the Wii and Wii U.

If they work on the Wii does that mean they'll also work in the normal Dolphin emulator as well?

I don't think so. Those game have been playable on the Wii for quite a long time using the Quadforce mod.

Interesting. Didn't know about this Qualforce mod. I wonder if they could possibly emulate the Qualforce mod itself within Dolphin? Then no doubt it could work.

[MrThunderwing]

I don't think it's ever going to happen mate, people were asking this same question 5 years ago:

https://forums.dolphin-emu.org/Thread-triforce-mario-kart-arcade-gp2?pid=220458#pid220458

[MrThunderwing]

This is a bit off-topic, but it's on a Mario Kart theme: Have you guys seen the amazing progress that's being made in Wii U emulation at the moment? I decided to get on-board and give it a try and this is how well Mario Kart 8 runs on my i5 presently.



Amazing progress in such a short space of time!

I read about this as well. Very impressive indeed. Though I'm not a wiiU fan, I wouldn't mind trying out that Fast Racing Neo title that they just came out with.

Check out how well Mario Kart 8 runs on my PC now using CEMU - in the video above it was just about managing 10 -15fps, now it's running at 60 fps, give or take the odd stutter. Part of this down to a new GPU on my part, but a big part of it is to do with the amazing progress in the emulator itself. It really is incredible how quickly this has progressed.

[isamu]

This is a bit off-topic, but it's on a Mario Kart theme: Have you guys seen the amazing progress that's being made in Wii U emulation at the moment? I decided to get on-board and give it a try and this is how well Mario Kart 8 runs on my i5 presently.



Amazing progress in such a short space of time!

I read about this as well. Very impressive indeed. Though I'm not a wiiU fan, I wouldn't mind trying out that Fast Racing Neo title that they just came out with.

Check out how well Mario Kart 8 runs on my PC now using CEMU - in the video above it was just about managing 10 -15fps, now it's running at 60 fps, give or take the odd stutter. Part of this down to a new GPU on my part, but a big part of it is to do with the amazing progress in the emulator itself. It really is incredible how quickly this has progressed.

 

And your pc isn't even all that powerful, which makes it even MORE amazing how well it runs! Absolutely bonkers!! 

[Jayinem]

Old topic but not sure where else to ask. I'm trying to launch Mario Kart GP 2 on Dolphin build 3.0-698. I followed the directions on dolphins website (although they're old and perhaps outdated? dunno) and I pasted the info into the ini and it boots, but as soon as I hit gas pedal it crashes every time. Tried mapping to different buttons but still crash. I do have AM board set in SP1 and Port 1 and cheats on.

I know it's the gas button because I've mapped it to different buttons and same thing and if I let the timer run out in the menu it progresses to the next menu, but as soon as I hit gas it crashes. I can't find where anyone else had this problem anywhere.

Could someone upload 694 I cannot find it anywhere. On Dolphins site the oldest is 697 and I couldn't get it to work either.

See there's no 694 here https://dolphin-emu.org/download/list/Triforce/1/

[marioxb]

This is my thread, so I can bump it if I want to. As of 2022, besides having an actual Triforce arcade unit, there a way to get force feedback in the 3 Triforce racing games? Whether it be on Wii or Wii U via Nintendont, or some form of Dolphin on PC?

Its hard finding info online, as usually everyone mentions F-Zero GX (the GameCube game). This is all I've tested:

Official GameCube Logitech Speed Force wheel. Works great for F-Zero GX (not AX) on GameCube or Wii (with GameCube ports) natively. Also via Nintendont on Wii. Force Feedback, the whole nine yards. Works with or without the pedal attachment. Of course, again, with the Triforce game, F-Zero AX, the wheel is not detected at all. Same when trying to play GX with the wheel on Wii U Nintendont. Since the Wii U doesn't have GameCube ports, and the wheel has special protocols, the wheel is not detected via the GameCube to Wii U adapter (on ANY games). Other wheels, such as the Madcatz MC2 (and I assume any other non-Logitech wheel), work on GX, AX and Ml GP 1 and 2. The other wheels are detected as a controller, so they work fine, but have no force feedback.

I'm thinking of getting a Logitech PS3 wheel. I think they are emulated as a GameCube wheel on Dolphin on PC for F-Zero GX (and I assume the other 20-ish supported GC games), but I can't find any info about the Triforce driving games.

I know Triforce games are not officially supported in Dolphin for some reason, but there should be a way to have them properly playable on Wii at least, right? Since it's basically the same hardware as the Triforce arcade unit. Why hasn't some programmer (not me!) found a way to have these 3 games play exactly as they do in the arcade (minus the camera and paper cards I suppose), on the Wii? It should be doable. Force Feedback, memory card with transferring of data between AX and GX supported. If using a USB wheel, up and down for GX/AX can be mapped to the shifter.

[buttersoft]

Well, it's a chunk of effort getting the games to run, and TBH the MKAGP games aren't really very good. Maybe no one can be bothered. MKDX is much better. At least so my 6-yr-old tells me

Have you looked at the F-Zero AX mod for the GX game? As in, there's a patch for the GX Gamecube disc that makes it act like the arcade game and load directly into the AX content and only the AX content. Meant to work pretty well, but i haven't tried it. Would that get around your issue?

[anchounio]

The f-zero AX you can acess through GX gamecube version is not the full version of F-Zero AX. It is more like a demo.

Unluckily, F-Zero AX is still not emulated.

[buttersoft]

The f-zero AX you can acess through GX gamecube version is not the full version of F-Zero AX. It is more like a demo.

Unluckily, F-Zero AX is still not emulated.

Well, i look like an idiot then i thought it was the whole thing, if not perfectly identical because there are always tiny differences.

[marioxb]

The f-zero AX you can acess through GX gamecube version is not the full version of F-Zero AX. It is more like a demo.

Unluckily, F-Zero AX is still not emulated.

Well, i look like an idiot then i thought it was the whole thing, if not perfectly identical because there are always tiny differences.

It was a common misconception that the codes unlocked the full AX game. But the Wii and Wii U play the games 90% perfectly (as to be expected, as they arent emulating, they are basically the same hardware as the arcade unit) minus the camera and force feedback. Not sure about the memory card. Some of us are so crazy that we have to collect (or "emulate", which isnt the exact right word in this case) every game with Nintendo's name on it, no matter how bad or redundant. From PlayChoice-10, including all of it's instructions and Nintendo Super System, to all versions of Mario Kart Arcade.

I'm sure some programming genius can get everything working 100% on Wii/ Wii U via Nintendont. I'm pretty sure it's all already right there, and just needs all of the wires connected, so to speak. Not sure how to tag people on this forum, so I'll drop this fake quote here instead:

I am Howard Casto and I can get any old light gun or driving arcade game working perfectly at home with my programming genius-ness.

[marioxb]

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