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Haze:

--- Quote from: leapinlew on June 30, 2013, 09:33:30 am ---
--- Quote from: Haze on June 29, 2013, 03:26:33 pm ---yeah, it's not a term I really like.  To me it's a way the industry have decided to try and make the standard practice of installing your own software sound like something borderline dodgy, creeping in by the side door.

Bit surprised the Ouya is using that terminology....

glad to see it's running semi-recent versions of MAME tho, it's the type of thing I'd quite like to see an official OSD target for in the source, especially if we end up with a more customizable build system covering both MAME and MESS, so you could roll your own with a healthy selection of suitable drivers from both projects.

it's still a little underpowered, but I'm sure we'll see advances in that area with subsequent systems assuming it isn't a complete disaster.

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I think it's another word for Beta, as in, you can do it if you want but it may have undesirable results. When I sideload something, I expect it may not work perfectly but when I install something I expect a seamless error free experience.

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In effect it's the same thing tho, mentally preparing people to consider 3rd party software unsigned software to be somehow inferior, when in reality a lot of the stuff you can install from official 'app stores' is buggy as crap,untrustworthy and worthless anyway ;-)

I don't like it, and honestly worry that the future will see the ONLY applications you can put on a machine (without hacking / modding it) being ones sold through official stores where somebody else takes a cut and the developers have to pay to put them there.  We're already there with most phones, and it's kinda obvious that's why Microsoft is pushing Win 8 / Metro so hard.  Anyway, that's offtopic for this thread.

As for the system itself, it is good to see more open consoles, but I do find this modern terminology offensive.

leapinlew:

--- Quote from: Haze on June 30, 2013, 09:51:08 am ---In effect it's the same thing tho, mentally preparing people to consider 3rd party software unsigned software to be somehow inferior, when in reality a lot of the stuff you can install from official 'app stores' is buggy as crap,untrustworthy and worthless anyway ;-)

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Well that's the truth...
clok:
another one of those products that some love and hate..  I think its a pretty cool idea as I HATE touchpads, give me a solid controller any day. I hate alot of the reviews as it looks like crap when they where all pre-release systems with the DISCLAIMER that things would be changed/fixed and that there where know issues.. the controllers had been bad mouthed from day one, and publicly stated they would be changed and fixed.. and they are.. perfect, not even close. Good enough, working, yes, could they be better, yes. So many want a Xbox controller.. i think they would get sued copying it, not sure but that is how that works, you copy  you get sued.. it cant be one. And you can use ANY blue tooth controller you want..

its fairly clunky interface, no doubt about it.. after the current gens $500 (at launch) systems.. yes. its not as good, does it work, again yes, its about 5% of your time on it, so i don't see it as a huge deal, it will improve with time if the public demands.

its a $99 open system.. its far better then most then $99 do all systems i have purchased (gameSystem 100 in one things) it can load almost anything (for it) without having to buy it.. no not pirating.. im talking the open source part.. its an OPEN system you can do whatever you want with it.. its a raspberry Pi with a controller, powersupply and box.. its ready to go.. and if you want, mod like the PI.. yes it cost more.. but not much when its all factored in..

do i think it will succeed? no, it got to many bad reviews early and people think its the release hardware.. and even with the release hardware its in need of some work.  is it worth $99 i think yes, but not for a casual user.. you already have a phone to do all it ill do for you. With the Xbox and PS3 finding way so hose the streaming abilities.. running XBMC on the Ouya has solved my streaming problems and is such a small package its not taking any room up..
knave:

--- Quote from: clok on July 09, 2013, 01:18:32 pm ---is it worth $99 i think yes, but not for a casual user..

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Now that my Ouya experience has seasoned a bit, I can tell you that This is the real truth for Ouya.  There are a lot of good arguments for/against this device. I still like it, even though it has faults.  I backed it's kickstarter because I was excited about all the things that might be possible. Its a toy for me to tinker with. Just like the Raspberry Pi. For the difference in price I get some nice additions, higher specs, 8 gigs of storage, a controller etc.

Folks buying this for a turn key gaming system loose out on a lot of the value.

But if you are willing to tinker...even a bit it is really quite fun. I've been playing SNES and Genisis games and a few Ouya store Gems.

I think the reason I go on about this is that I expect folks here at BYOAC to be more excited about it. No it's not a full arcade but so much of it fits in with what we do here.

Anyway, I'll spare you the rant. You all get the Idea. Knave likes his Ouya even though it's not ready for causal use.



wessagussett:
this thing has my interest......
ive never done anything with MAME before, is there a step by step guide on how to get someone like me (tech dummy) to be able to play the NES games?
I really miss super mario bros and wouldnt mind playing NHL '94 and a few other classics from the genesis.
but no sense on me buying it if its too dificult to get those old games working on it. 
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