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lilshawn:
that's what it really comes down to. money.

if you have your hand in their cookie jar, they will bring down the hammer on you.

koolmoecraig:

--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on June 22, 2013, 04:46:59 pm ---I've tried to have this conversation with people and was flamed for it.  People say that these burners offer a valuable service.  To which I answer  "I don't care". 

To put it in another context, let's say I have somebody sell me a digital copy of The Avengers bluray burnt to a disc ... giving the excuse that I'm not technically competent enough to burn it and/or my internet connection is too slow to download a digital copy.  So?  You just bought a bootleg copy of The Avengers!

I mean if people want to pay for stolen stuff that's their business, but these sorts of auctions and services could potentially get the mame team in hot water meaning no emulators or roms for anyone.

--- End quote ---

So it's OK to steal them as long as you aren't paying anyone to do it?

"potentially get the mame team in hot water meaning no emulators or roms for anyone".  < Laughable.

ChadTower:

--- Quote from: koolmoecraig on June 27, 2013, 04:06:28 pm ---So it's OK to steal them as long as you aren't paying anyone to do it?

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He didn't say that or anything even resembling that.

Howard_Casto:
Exactly, it's a moral issue, not a legal one.  What we do is most assuredly illegal. 

It is NOT laughable that the mame team could get in trouble by this and have development halted. 

Perhaps you don't know your emulation history or something but Dave Foley's mess got the mame team in hot water, even though they had absolutely nothing to do with his exploits... nothing came out of it, but still.  Also they have gotten various cease and desist orders over the years, having to pull certain games... many of them were rather tame, but again.... legal issues.  If you think that game manufacturers aren't paying attention to what goes on it mame, think again.   

Even though napster had absolutely nothing to do with music piracy directly, it was shut down back in the day.  The only difference between the game industry and the music industry is currently most game developers don't see rom piracy of old stuff as much of a threat.  The main reason for this is that it's decidedly an underground affair.  Ebay auctions and other high profile piracy are a great danger to the hobby, because it gives it unneeded exposure.   

Xiaou2:
Comparing Napster to Emulation is Idiotic.

 People whom create emulators can not get in trouble via someone selling data they do not own.

 Thats like suing someone who made a fork, because someone else was using it to eat other peoples food.

  If the game companies had a problem with emulation, mame would have been put to bed AGES ago.

 Drawing  Nazi-Snitch  attention to such a thing however, is much more Dangerous that the actual wrong doing.

 Its pure IDIOCY  to go after some kid selling ancient bootlegged material that can be found by many, for free anyways.. especially since the people buying it probably wouldnt pay for more than a few dollars for it, IF they had the money to spare.

 Not only all that... but, you couldnt stop emulation if you wanted to.   Theres too much material already out there.
They still cant stop NEW music and NEW movie piracy.. and those are far more critical and worth chasing than old games that have already earned their money.

 The typical responses like this, are from Extremists personalities.  People who see the world in Black and White.  People who will be your best friend one day.. then serve you up to the Nazi brigade the next.

 I truly feel sorry for people like you.  You have the most warped & unrealistic perspectives..  cant maintain personal relationships, cant enjoy life properly... are Always in fear, anxiety, and emotional distress.
 

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