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lilshawn:
I know we have discussed the legality of ROMs before, and the consensus is that, yes it's illegal to download ROMs without owning the original game and many of us know the ramifications of downloading the ROMS of which we have no legal claim to and many of us here take that risk.

Yet we continue to see it pop up on ebay for sale. And ebay says it's alright because they have included a disclaimer:


--- Quote ---This infomation is included as per ebay policies.

All the content contained within the collection are freely available from the internet.  However, downloading over 65GB of data is impossible for some people who have 10GB download limits or slow speeds. The collection you purchase is given to you as is, and you agree that you are purchasing the collection as a service to you.  You also agree that any payment made by you is to voluntary meaning that you are re-imbursing the costs involved in preparing your collection e.g, time, electricity, wear and tear, packaging and other services.

NO SUPPORT IS OFFERED - You are buying this collection because you searched for it on ebay, and you know what it is your getting for your money.  No infomation will be given on how to build, configure or optimize and of the content.
--- End quote ---

So?! It's still illegal to sell. Those that take the time to report these listings are wasting their time cause ebay looks that the listing, says "yep there is a disclaimer" and allow it to continue.

I suppose there is lot's of illegal things available for purchase on ebay... as long as fleabay get's their cut of the sale, they couldn't give 2 shits. Money laundering, illegal items, counterfeit items, (and if you search sneakily enough) guns. Hell, if you look through ebays prohibited items list, 98% of the items on that list, right there, can be bought on ebay right now.

SMH

Howard_Casto:
I've tried to have this conversation with people and was flamed for it.  People say that these burners offer a valuable service.  To which I answer  "I don't care". 

To put it in another context, let's say I have somebody sell me a digital copy of The Avengers bluray burnt to a disc ... giving the excuse that I'm not technically competent enough to burn it and/or my internet connection is too slow to download a digital copy.  So?  You just bought a bootleg copy of The Avengers!

I mean if people want to pay for stolen stuff that's their business, but these sorts of auctions and services could potentially get the mame team in hot water meaning no emulators or roms for anyone. 

DillonFoulds:
ROM sales are hard to justify. If a person has legal rights to own copies of the ROMs, then they legally must have physical PCB copies of the ROMs too, should they not?

If you're downloading a full set of SNES ROMs, then by that same logic you should have a full SNES cartridge set, correct?

The only people I've heard of that have near that scale of a collection are Byuu (in the case of SNES) and The Angry Video Game Nerd (in the case of NES). Both of thee people know enough about the technology and (especially in the case of byuu) have the technology or the resources already to dump copies of all their games on their own.

spoot:
So, when I lose it and punch people in the face at work.  I simply state I was paid and it was a service.  I'll get off scott free!   :D

JDFan:
I just wish there were more legal options for obtaining the roms for use -- I'd much rather pay the developer\owner of the content a few $'s and support them rather than rely on some torrent put together by who knows or purchase from someone on EBAY, but unfortunately the game developers don't seem to acknowledge that the emulators even exist, rather than offering a means of legally obtaining their content.

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