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Had an...interesting night last night.

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hypernova:
To be honest, the death really didn't affect me personally.  So the rather harsh comments really didn't bother me too much, other than the callous attitude in general.  I think I even learned a little something, because like I said, I'm not too keen on feeling bad for the victim when it was their own fault.  But I realized I shouldn't be feeling sorry for them.  I should be feeling empathy for the survivors and family.  I hope to God I never have to deal with that kind of premature loss.

And you're right ark, because this wasn't a case of a moron.  Apparently the river looked pretty damn tame on the surface according to eyewitness accounts, but the undercurrent was swift.

My wife opted to go out and stock up their groceries a few days ago.  Fridge and cupboards were practically empty and bare.  My wife has always had trigger that when a man cries, she'll cry too.  The father did just that.

CheffoJeffo:

--- Quote from: ark_ader on June 22, 2013, 11:56:14 am ---There has been many times in my youth that I have nearly faced death for my own stupid actions.

--- End quote ---

By saying this and saying it here, you reveal that you either didn't come close enough to understand or that you simply didn't learn the truly important lesson.

hyper, I am so very sorry. My thoughts and prayers for those who are affected.

kahlid74:
It's an unfortunate situation.  My condolences to your wife and the young boys family.  Being a father I've come to realize that you can't be there every waking moment and you can't plan for every little thing.  All I can do is stand on the side and hope that my love for him and the lessons I've taught him give him the strength he needs to survive and succeed.

Just as a side note, everyone grieves in different ways.  While some of the above may be seen as harsh, we shouldn't let that disturb us but instead be strengthened by it and driven to action, to work to prevent another loss of life similar to this.

koolmoecraig:

--- Quote from: saint on June 22, 2013, 12:26:33 pm ---It never fails to boggle and dismay me when people believe that it is more important that their opinion is the right one than it is for them to show a shred of human compassion and empathy. Mean people suck, in the wrong situations, mean people suck a lot.

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This.

Honestly,  I don't think it is something that the person can really control.  It's straight-up sociopathic.

HanoiBoi:
Hyper, I'm sorry that this event hit so close to home, I'm sorry that this boys life has been cut short, and I can't even imagine what that family must be going through.  For them, this isn't just a 'story' that is talked about, then fades away.  It's truly a life changing event for anyone who ever knew this boy and their families.

We all know that people grieve in different ways.  We also know that people have different levels of empathy, sympathy and compassion.  Clearly, and sadly, some have almost none.

It's a shame this happened.  "It's a shame.". Just by adding even these simple words, a harsh post really wouldn't seem quite as harsh.  Regardless of his true thoughts, yeah, this post didnt need to be made.  Not here and not at that time.

But, possibly equally as harsh could be the punishment.  I don't know enough about Gray to know all of his posts, or to judge him.  But, if his ban is based solely on this thread, I'd hope that Saint might reconsider...maybe after a period of time.  Communities and families don't only comprise of just the shiny happy people.

Again, hyper, I'm sorry for the sadness around you and your acquaintences.

HanoiBoi

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