Thanks for your input, Thefox.
I cant help but think that one of the inherent problems with writing an FAQ is that it is written by the guys who really know their stuff, have been into it for years, and forget that your average noob is approaching it from way outside it all somewhere.
So an answer like "MAME32, MAMEUI, or MAMEUIFX - Graphic User Interface (GUI) versions of MAME" may make perfect sense to someone who already knows about that stuff, but is a confusing list of wierd letters and numbers to a newbie looking to get his first MAME setup, and is in danger of just making the subject even more confusing than it already is.
Right now I'm using some "inside baseball" shorthand on some of these as a placeholder before expanding the text, adding some screen-shots, and whipping it into final shape.
Once it is on the wiki, it will be easy for anyone with a clearer/better way to express the ideas to improve the FAQ.
That's also why I'm asking for
everyone's input.
By the time we get the FAQ whipped into decent shape, it should be as easy to follow as my help threads.
Ron White may have said "You can't fix stupid". But that's a pretty stupid thing to say sometimes, cos everyone starts out "stupid" to some extent.
Minor revision: Everyone starts out
ignorant to some extent -- and that's OK.
Ignorance can be fixed by the individual learning what they didn't know before.
That's why we
all keep reading and learning.
My point with the Ron White quote was that no matter how much you try to idiot-proof something, someone will always build a bigger, better idiot.
For now, we'll work on the ignorant-proofing the FAQ until the law of diminishing returns kicks in or it exceeds the size of the
Encyclopedia Galactica.
Eventually, we'll get the FAQ where it should be, but right now, it's just the beginnings of a skeleton that we need to flesh out.
As a relative newbie myself, the impression i got was that MAME seems overtly and perhaps unnecessarily complicated, and that there is a club of geeky guys out there who "get it" but don't want to let me in by sharing it in a way I could easily understand.
It's not that anyone is trying to deliberately shut anyone out -- other than maybe one guy . . . but you're not him.
I don't quite understand the annoyance factor of being asked the same question by noobs - I would have thought that helping people out is part of what forums are about, and I would be happy (and proud) to be able to help someone out with a seemingly dumb question.
I think it's a bit rude when someone posts a question without even
trying a search, but it's usually not worth making an issue out of it.
I'm not annoyed by the repetitious questions, just seeking a more organized and efficient way to convey the material.
Case in point.
23 of my posts mention MagnaSave.
21 of those posts mention how to tie MagnaSave and Upper Flipper inputs together for Visual Pinball because no pinball tables use both.
Some of the posts took a really long time to write, it also took a while to find a post that had several related wiring + diode diagrams, and a few of the newer posts left out some details included in earlier posts.
This is the kind of thing that is perfect for the wiki -- once it is written up and consolidated there, future replies on the subject can point to the wiki.
From there, it's much easier to proceed since they'll have a solid foundation for any further questions.
But since it does appear to be an annoyance, I think the way to avoid the same question cropping up would be to ensure there is an FAQ where the answers really take people by the hand and guide them through stuff, using "stupid" as the starting point.
Change "stupid" to "ignorant" and we're pretty much on the same page.
Scott