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whammoed:
I'm very happy with Harmy's despecialized editions on my 60" 1080P flatscreen.
Just sayin'.
I believe he's doing new versions but the originals were plenty satisfying. The major stupidity that Lucas added was removed and that's really enough for me. I'm not much of a stickler beyond that. They just needed to be true to original to the point where no nostalgia is lost.
Vigo:
:soapbox: Soapbox time.
--- Quote from: nitz on May 31, 2013, 02:19:52 pm ---As for people liking Star Wars on 24" CRT, well, it's not unusual to prefer what we grew up with, even if it's inferior from a technical standpoint. ;)
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That is exactly why I like vinyl. Not because it is a truer to studio sound, but because I like the way that it sounds 'warmer'. It's like the audio version of rose tinted glasses. CDs are not an ideal media though, but mostly because of time constraints (70-80 minutes) and lack of durability. One well placed scratch and you can put your cd out of commission. I also hate the lack of durability of CD lasers. I wish they were standardized and I could pop in a new one as easily as a record needle.
Yeah, vinyl LPs are technically better sound quality than CD, but most players are also not capturing the audio perfectly and capture the physical flaws as well. CDs are 1411kbps, but most people cannot hear a difference in anything greater than 320kbps. I don't think any human could tell the difference between 1411 and analog.
Ond:
Heh, the CD vs Vinyl debate. There are some very good technical reasons why vinyl can sound better than CD, in fact some vinyl recordings are truer to studio sound or the way the artist intended them to be heard, not because of the analog nature of vinyl but because the dynamic range of the performance was more accurately represented. If you read up on the differences you'll find audiophiles critical of the tendency of record labels to compress the dynamic range of CDs to the top end of the volume range to compete with each other for loudness. What does this mean in practical terms, who cares? Well I'm glad I asked that rhetorical question, it means that for music with wide dynamic range (stuff with quiet parts as well as really loud parts) you get greater impact when its reproduced accurately.
Remember the song In the Air Tonight by Phil Collins? It has this lead up to a great drumming part which has impact because on a good system cranked up it punches out by comparison to the section before it. I tried this test myself with a vinyl and CD version. The CD version clearly lacked this range with the track more compressed into a narrower volume range. When CDs were first on the market the labels were less guilty of this.
Sorry for crapping on about it, but that's the main issue I have with them (CDs) anyway. Back on topic I have the 'Special' edition Star Wars Laser discs I very rarely play them except when I want to see Darth Vader prior to Hayden Christensen. Watching Star Wars on Blu-Ray is like watching them for the first time again, despite the poxy 'improvements'.
Vigo:
I'm gonna have to test that dynamic range bit. Been having a lot of trouble lately with some of my mp3 collection volume range. I can't seem to find a natural volume to meet both the quiet and loud parts of music naturally. It is either all to loud or all too quiet. This might explain that problem.
--- Quote from: Ond on May 31, 2013, 04:32:44 pm ---Back on topic I have the 'Special' edition Star Wars Laser discs I very rarely play them except when I want to see Darth Vader prior to Hayden Christensen. Watching Star Wars on Blu-Ray is like watching them for the first time again, despite the poxy 'improvements'.
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My understanding is that the harmy HD 720p editions are better quality than even the blu-ray. Even though the Blu-ray are 1080p, the source material is still of the same quality. With the color correction and better mixing of sound, Harmy's should be an overall improvement over blue ray. I haven't tried them yet, so I can't confirm. It's all just what I heard.
Howard_Casto:
There's no sense polluting the thread with this kind of thing, but the "audiophile" typically translates to "hipster" and like with all things, they don't know what they are talking about.
Vinyl sounds different from cds that is to be sure, but if you want to hear what the artist intended, you should go with a cd.
Same goes with star wars nerds, the fans are fanatics.... it's right there in the term. Just go with the regular blu-rays. Yeah the new vader at the end of empire is lame, but the rest is ok.
Vigo: I don't know about the Harmy edition, but the source material was transferred over from the original negatives and converted to pure digital years ago. They did this so that they could show the films on digital projectors for subsequent releases. I suppose it's possible that the blurays could use 720p source material, but the fact that there is a pure digital copy 20x that resolution sitting on a shelf somewhere make me doubt it. It's like the old X-files poster... I think SW fans want to believe that these de-specialized editions are better.
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