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4-way joystick shootout! (Leaf-Pro, Sanwa JLW, Ultrastik 360, Seimitsu LS-32-02)
ramos8414:
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--- Quote from: Unstupid on August 23, 2013, 04:40:27 pm ---I just wanted to add that I'd defend shponglefan's statement that the u360 is the only true 4 way joystick. In theory, it is the only joystick that will actuate only 1 direction or the other as you transition from say, for example, right to up and it will never not actuate a specific direction.
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Using that same logic, a chip solution attached to any 8-way switch based stick can do the same thing. But that doesn't mean it will work any better as a 4-way just because it behaves this way.
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I'm not speaking towards performance, I'm just pointing out the fact that "only" digital sticks can be true 4-way sticks.
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So, you dont think an original pacman joystick is a true 4 way?
Unstupid:
--- Quote from: ramos8414 on August 23, 2013, 07:41:15 pm ---
--- Quote from: Unstupid on August 23, 2013, 05:02:18 pm ---
--- Quote from: RandyT on August 23, 2013, 04:49:04 pm ---
--- Quote from: Unstupid on August 23, 2013, 04:40:27 pm ---I just wanted to add that I'd defend shponglefan's statement that the u360 is the only true 4 way joystick. In theory, it is the only joystick that will actuate only 1 direction or the other as you transition from say, for example, right to up and it will never not actuate a specific direction.
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Using that same logic, a chip solution attached to any 8-way switch based stick can do the same thing. But that doesn't mean it will work any better as a 4-way just because it behaves this way.
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I'm not speaking towards performance, I'm just pointing out the fact that "only" digital sticks can be true 4-way sticks.
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So, you dont think an original pacman joystick is a true 4 way?
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No, as you rotate the joystick around the perimeter, (depending on the actuator which theoretically cant be perfect) will actually respond with diagonals or it will return a "no direction" however brief that time may be. Do this, go to a light switch in your house that has 2 light switches. turn one light off and one light on. Now switch the lights turning the one that was on off and the one that was off on. At one point (even if .00001/1second) you had either both lights on or both lights off.
RandyT:
--- Quote from: Unstupid on August 23, 2013, 05:02:18 pm ---I'm not speaking towards performance, I'm just pointing out the fact that "only" digital sticks can be true 4-way sticks.
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To be perfectly factual, even a 4-way is actually a 5-way, as "no direction" or "center" is also a valid and necessary function. In that sense, digital and switch based 4-way sticks are equal, and it is only the behavior which is different.
Unstupid:
--- Quote from: RandyT on August 24, 2013, 09:58:24 am ---
--- Quote from: Unstupid on August 23, 2013, 05:02:18 pm ---I'm not speaking towards performance, I'm just pointing out the fact that "only" digital sticks can be true 4-way sticks.
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To be perfectly factual, even a 4-way is actually a 5-way, as "no direction" or "center" is also a valid and necessary function. In that sense, digital and switch based 4-way sticks are equal, and it is only the behavior which is different.
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Yea but we are only talking about actuated directions else all 8 ways would be 9 if you count the "no direction".
RandyT:
--- Quote from: Unstupid on August 24, 2013, 05:14:43 pm ---Yea but we are only talking about actuated directions else all 8 ways would be 9 if you count the "no direction".
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49-way joysticks would also be 48-ways, if you didn't ;)
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