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Tool free Sanwa JLW-TM-8
sublimejhn:
So I have a question that I would have thought would have been easy to find an answer to, but so far I've had no luck. I have 2 Sanwa JLW-TM-8 sticks in my cab. I just leave the second player on 4 way as I don't play 2 player often. When I do have a second player though, it would be nice to switch over to 8 way on the second stick. I can reach the back of the stick pretty easily through the coin door, but loosening and tightening the screws that way is pretty difficult.
Now I know Ultimarc has a tool free design on their J-sticks, which would be prefect for me, but when I built my cab they were sold out. So being as impatient as I am I just went ahead and bought standard Sanwa's elseware. Now I'm kicking myself.
I'm just wondering if anyone knows what exactly is used in the J-sticks that makes them different from the standard Sanwas. It seems like I could just buy some new screws, some springs and maybe some washers? They don't seem to be all that different but I don't really know what it is I need to buy to make mine tool free. I only need to switch over the 2nd player's stick since I can leave player 1 in 8 way at all times. Anyone with experience with these know what I would need, or possibly someone that has done this as well?
Thanks for any help
brad808:
You could use thumb screws instead of regular screws. They would be tool free and you can get them at all hardware stores.
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BadMouth:
People used to just leave the screws loose enough that the restriction plate can be turned when pushed upward.
There is also groovygamegear's Omni2 as a reference:
http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65&products_id=383
DeLuSioNal29:
--- Quote from: BadMouth on May 15, 2013, 10:28:54 am ---There is also groovygamegear's Omni2
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+1 on the Omni2. If I remember correctly, one of our members bought some and swapped out some parts for the better feeling Sanwa parts creating a Hybrid. (I think it was MGB but not sure).
If you want it automated you can always get the Ultimarc servo stick, but I doubt you have room. http://www.ultimarc.com/servostik.html
To answer your question about the parts: I had contacted Andy at Ultimarc.com a few years ago asking the same question and he replied with,
--- Quote ---"We now use washers and small springs. The washers are M4 hole, 10mm dia x 1mm thick nylon. You need low-strength Locktite threadlock on the screw threads. On ours we use M4 x 25mm screws which bottom-out in the hole and stay tight but then you would need the springs to fill the gap... The springs were determined by a lot of trial and error which required investment in 10 different spring samples. So these are special."
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Finding the correct spring is the hard part. But here are the rest of the parts:
Nylon Washer: http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?jspStoreDir=hdus&catalogId=10053&productId=202210243&navFlow=3&keyword=594993&langId=-1&searchRedirect=594993&storeId=10051&endecaDataBean=com.homedepot.sa.el.wc.integration.endeca.EndecaDataBean%40745ec14&ddkey=Search
Screw: http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?jspStoreDir=hdus&catalogId=10053&productId=202210022&navFlow=3&keyword=650062&langId=-1&searchRedirect=650062&storeId=10051&endecaDataBean=com.homedepot.sa.el.wc.integration.endeca.EndecaDataBean%40e216c9f&ddkey=Search
Loctite: http://www.amazon.com/Henkel-Corp-209728-Loctite-Threadlocker/dp/B0043EK14O/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1368654490&sr=1-1&keywords=loctite+blue
mgb:
Yeah I bought an Omni 2 but I had some issues.
The Omni 2 is not an actual JLW but its pretty close, but not quite as beefy.
The issue I had with the Omni 2 may have even been my own fault.
I ended up just transferring the restrictor plate and mods from the Omni 2 over to my faithful JLW.