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Hoopz:
--- Quote from: lilshawn on May 08, 2013, 10:57:12 am ---it's usually the carriers that put all that "fluff" on there.
Bone stock OS comes from google and gets sent to the phone manufacturers (LG, Samsung, etc.) where they add a tiny bit of "fluff" (mainly to work with the phone features.
Then it gets sent from the phone manufacturers to the carriers. where they put their "fluff" in there. They call it "value added applications", I call it "mining for microtransactions".
Ideally you want a phone that is as close to the top of the shitpile as possible. My Google Galaxy Nexus (before I dropped and broke it) received updates directly (or as near directly as possible) from Google. Legit OTA update within a few weeks of OS release. (running 4.2.2 when I broke it) No fluff at all.
My replacement phone (which i'm currently running) is an LG Optimus G. Still runs 4.1.2 :'( The updates come from the carrier. So I have to wait until the updates trickle down from LG. It has fluff. I removed most of the pre-installed fluff, but it still has stuff I can't remove and I hate that. I don't use any of the fluff, so it doesn't really affect me i suppose. but there is no reason to tie up my memory space with it.
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Yep, all good and valid points. And it's exactly why I like the Nexus because its pure Android. If you notice, Google doesn't let the carriers call their phones "Android" phones. They brand them as "Android based" because they have to put their crap on em.
You can root and then install custom roms to get your phone to 4.2.2 or wait months if the carrier decides to upgrade your phone. That's iOS's biggest complaint about Android as older phones don't get updated.
Ideally, Google would put out a Nexus phone every 6 months. It'd fit my schedule better when I want to upgrade and don't want to pick a Nexus device that was launched 6 months ago. ;D
chopperthedog:
--- Quote from: Hoopz on May 08, 2013, 06:05:46 am ---
--- Quote from: sandheaver on May 07, 2013, 07:07:39 pm ---Except GPS doesn't work, or maybe WiFi, or the gyro... I'm only slightly being facetious here; every time i wanted to put CM on my phone there was some major component broken horribly and the developers never seemed to care that those things were broken. That probably isn't true anymore, but that snobby "we only support good phones" attitude drove me to Windows Phone just as much as anything else.
Good bye Android, hello Windows Phone.
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And that's why I don't mess with them anymore. I want pure Android without the fluff but with everything working. Stock - crap = me being a happy user.
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Sounds like you both have previous rom experience, but not on a true nexus device. Trying to run an AOSP (android open source project) roms on non nexus devices can be a crap shoot. The beauty of a nexus device is that ALL source is available for anyone to build their own full functioning rom from posted code. Now when you talk non nexus devices that include oem overlays (samsung - touch wiz, htc - sense, motorola - blur) they don't post full source code for those devices. And yes the biggest hang-up with AOSP roms on non nexus devices is hardware issues that you mentioned, but that is not CM's or any other devs fault. You have to look towards the OEM's for not sharing the RIL (radio interface layer) and other proprietary device blobs needed to build a full functioning AOSP rom from source. At that point it's up to devs to do some mad hacker y and reverse engineering in "hope" of trying to resolve hardware issues within a specific device tree. For non nexus devices it's best to stick with modded roms based off of original software that came on the device. You don't get the custom rom woes of hardware issues on a nexus device. Flash away before you get a new phone.
good day.
sandheaver:
True for me; never held a Nexus.
lilshawn:
--- Quote from: sandheaver on May 08, 2013, 02:01:44 pm ---True for me; never held a Nexus.
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not much different than any other android phone...its just the software is updated constantly.
lots of google branded and nexus phones are available at several price points. there is something for everybody it seems.
Gray_Area:
What's 'the nexus experience'?
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