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IG-88:

--- Quote from: sandheaver on May 01, 2013, 11:48:47 am ---To which new Orwellian system are you referring?  I am surrounded by them in my daily life, so you'll need to be more specific.  Also, there will always be Linux, which I recommend you gain experience with if you've not already.  That includes all readers afraid of Orwellian stuff.

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If you think for one second that the linux community is immune to the impending Orwellian state you may be in for a rude awakening. It's only a matter of time before it falls under "big brothers" umbrella too. If it hasn't already...

As far as the "state of the arcades" I've actually seen an increase in their popularity. There are more and more popping up all over the country.

I could also see this next generation of consoles f-ing up the whole market and driving/leading people back too retro games. DLC and TONS of poor/repeat games coupled with the fact that they cost too much to develop and therefore too expensive to buy, iOS and android games costing very little develop and flooding the market , AND the natural swing of trends, fads, styles leads me to think that we may be in for revolution of sorts. That is if we can keep big brother away....
sandheaver:

--- Quote from: IG-88 on May 07, 2013, 05:35:04 pm ---If you think for one second that the linux community is immune to the impending Orwellian state you may be in for a rude awakening. It's only a matter of time before it falls under "big brothers" umbrella too. If it hasn't already...

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You're confusing the Linux kernel with Linux OS distributions.  The kernel (to which I was referring) is very closely watched for these types of things, but the userland stuff (the stuff that is in the distros) is a giant pile of who knows what.  Not many people in the Linux community care enough or are smart enough to think to include the kind of thing that you're talking about, though there probably are a few who have.


--- Quote ---As far as the "state of the arcades" I've actually seen an increase in their popularity. There are more and more popping up all over the country.

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[citation needed]  I hope you're right, though.  There is usually resurgence in popularity of things after 30 years.  It always seems to be about 30 years, anyway.


--- Quote ---I could also see this next generation of consoles f-ing up the whole market and driving/leading people back too retro games. DLC and TONS of poor/repeat games coupled with the fact that they cost too much to develop and therefore too expensive to buy, iOS and android games costing very little develop and flooding the market , AND the natural swing of trends, fads, styles leads me to think that we may be in for revolution of sorts. That is if we can keep big brother away....

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The next generation of consoles will not f-up the whole market in any way.  If you're right about the increase in popularity, then marketing surveys will pick that up and we'll see ports of old games, but they will be few.  big budget games make LOTS of money, even if they are crap games, and no studio that currently makes them is going to stop until the sales slow way, way down.

If big brother is a thing that really exists (I'm not going to argue that one way or another, nor am I baiting you to comment on it) there is nothing that a loose association of gamers could ever do about it. 
paigeoliver:
That is John Yates place, it isn't a functioning business so much as it is John's personal collection that he is nice enough to lose money on just so people can play them. I have been there and it is pretty incredible. Be sure to notice the prototype Defender, because it isn't labeled as such. Don't miss Space Zap either.

John has bought games from me before, and probably will again in the future, he has expressed interest in my Forgotten Worlds and 4 player Demo Derby, so those could end up there eventually.


--- Quote from: sandheaver on April 30, 2013, 11:39:48 am ---If you're near Illinois, there is a great arcade in McLean, IL that runs nothing but older stuff, with maybe 3 exceptions.  These are complete cabinets which have been restored to near perfect condition.  As with any arcade there are always a couple that are out of order at any given time but in general it is great.  It's small, but they're expanding into the neighboring storefront soon.  I want to say something like 60 machines.  By far the newest machine is a DDR machine at the front.  Everything else is early 1990 & older.  May be some new-ish pinballs but most are golden-era.

I recommend a visit if you've the time.

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sandheaver:

--- Quote from: paigeoliver on May 08, 2013, 07:38:39 pm ---That is John Yates place, it isn't a functioning business so much as it is John's personal collection that he is nice enough to lose money on just so people can play them. I have been there and it is pretty incredible. Be sure to notice the prototype Defender, because it isn't labeled as such. Don't miss Space Zap either.

John has bought games from me before, and probably will again in the future, he has expressed interest in my Forgotten Worlds and 4 player Demo Derby, so those could end up there eventually.

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His shop is even cooler.
IG-88:
I keep going back and forth on the Big Brother thing. Part of me is sick of government intrusion and loss of liberties and then part of me is saying that we are living in the greatest times in human history. Ya things could be better but they could be a hell of a lot worse. Quit bitchin' and enjoy it.   :P

As far as new arcades springing up. I have no statistical proof other than what I have seen with my own eyes and heard about with my own ears. It is of course nothing like it was in 1984, but there are surely more now then there were in 2004. Even take in consideration the convention scene. All of them are growing in size and number year to year. There aren't any more of us gen-xers being produced. So that would lead me to think that the following generations are "getting into it"

It will never be like it was back then. But then again we aren't the same people either. Even if we could go back today, could it live up to our own memories? 
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