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Author Topic: Popeye CRT Nintendo Bartop !!!! FINISHED !!!!!!!  (Read 63189 times)

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Re: Popeye CRT Nintendo Bartop
« Reply #80 on: May 27, 2013, 10:03:13 am »
I would have gone with a LCD TV or LCD monitor and a magic VGA adapter.  That way you can have it looking authentic with scanlines or without, with a thinner build.

Nice work you did there.   :applaud:

Thanks,

I talked the same way as you in the past, but once you build with a CRT... you know what Le Chuck is talking about.
Prev. Build I used lcd and scanliners, IT looked very good, but this is the real deal.

IT make sence with this Nintendo build to use a CRT.
Using a CRT in a weecade is not the way to go I think... But hey, I'ts a matter of taste and money  :cheers:
« Last Edit: May 27, 2013, 10:48:36 am by Superfrog »

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Re: Popeye CRT Nintendo Bartop
« Reply #81 on: May 27, 2013, 01:55:43 pm »
I couldn't resist to put the demo prints on..... man, it's HOT   >:D

Now I'm going into hacking the gamepad so all the buttons have to work tonight, so I can play a decent game of POPEYE

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Re: Popeye CRT Nintendo Bartop
« Reply #82 on: May 27, 2013, 02:22:17 pm »
Get yourself a KADE.  It is much better than hacking your controller.

I agree with the CRT.  I have a portable TV here but not enough room in the Weecade.  Maybe I'll have a go at your idea next time.

Nice graphics.  I love Popeye, I can remember when it first came out.  ;D
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Re: Popeye CRT Nintendo Bartop
« Reply #83 on: May 27, 2013, 04:27:22 pm »
Is that a full size marquee, cpo, and bezel ?

The graphics look amazing.
What did you print them on ?
They look fantastic.
« Last Edit: May 27, 2013, 04:33:33 pm by mike boss »

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Re: Popeye CRT Nintendo Bartop
« Reply #84 on: May 27, 2013, 06:30:42 pm »
Is that a full size marquee, cpo, and bezel ?

The graphics look amazing.
What did you print them on ?
They look fantastic.

No, it's not a full size.Width of the cp, bezel and marquee are 39,5 cm  ;)

I printed them out on photopaper, just to give me the tast of the final look.
graphics need to be redone before it go to the printing office.

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Re: Popeye CRT Nintendo Bartop
« Reply #85 on: May 27, 2013, 07:30:51 pm »
I fully endorse the CRT, and if you were to build it thinner, it would take away from the shape-homage of the original cabs.
Scanlines are not the only thing CRT's give off. You also get that phosphorous glow, and blending of pixels that LCD's just can't mimic. Sure there are software filters galore out there, but it's just not the same as it was BITD.  Yadda, yadda, I'm becoming a broken record...

Anyways, great build, and excellent choices!
The artwork really brings it all home!

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Re: Popeye CRT Nintendo Bartop
« Reply #86 on: May 28, 2013, 06:52:13 pm »
I need some help with the gamepad hack....  ???

I've done that many times with pc gamepads, but this one is a pain in the A..

As you can see on the picture:

1: I always solder on the big pasrt where the d-pad was on and that worked always very good and simple.
 But on this one at position 2: where the action buttons are, there is not much room for solder.... when I clean the place to get hold the solder, there is noting under it to get a grip, only at the small dot at the correct place.

3: for the ground I use always the other half of the d-pad and that's do the job, or do I have to drill a whole in the middle of the d-pad?

4:  Or do I have to clean up that little spot in between the circle, so I don't touch the ground area, and place a dot of solder there?

I had removed the triggers, but that was not a good idea, the menu was freaking out    :banghead:

At the end I insert a picture of the menu buttons, that's the only good news of tonight  :cheers:

So hopefully I get some tips and can I solder my second and last gamepad   :notworthy:

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Re: Popeye CRT Nintendo Bartop
« Reply #87 on: May 28, 2013, 07:16:25 pm »
I need some help with the gamepad hack....  ???

I've done that many times with pc gamepads, but this one is a pain in the A..

As you can see on the picture:

1: I always solder on the big pasrt where the d-pad was on and that worked always very good and simple.
 But on this one at position 2: where the action buttons are, there is not much room for solder.... when I clean the place to get hold the solder, there is noting under it to get a grip, only at the small dot at the correct place.

3: for the ground I use always the other half of the d-pad and that's do the job, or do I have to drill a whole in the middle of the d-pad?

4:  Or do I have to clean up that little spot in between the circle, so I don't touch the ground area, and place a dot of solder there?

I had removed the triggers, but that was not a good idea, the menu was freaking out    :banghead:

At the end I insert a picture of the menu buttons, that's the only good news of tonight  :cheers:

So hopefully I get some tips and can I solder my second and last gamepad   :notworthy:

Hey there Superfrog,

Yar!  That looks like a nightmare!  You may wanna forego the hack of the controller and get yourself a xbox2jamma harness.  I have seen them on ebay a few times.  Or even easier than that pick up a Kade as someone else recommended.  It supports the original XBOX. 

http://kadevice.com/kade-miniarcade/

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Re: Popeye CRT Nintendo Bartop
« Reply #88 on: May 28, 2013, 07:20:10 pm »
Honestly -- I'd skip the hack and just buy an encoder -- For example I ordered this No delay encoder ( http://www.ebay.com/itm/251241379915?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 ) for only $10.99 shipped from Hong Kong and it arrived in 9 days. It is seen by windows as a 12 button game pad (12 buttons + single joystick) and comes with the wiring (though they are very short and may need extendingg depending on where you mount it. Best thing about them is you avoid all the soldering with the hack and the possible shorting out and damaging of the MOBO. IMHO it's worth the $11 investment even though you already have the gamepad.   

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Re: Popeye CRT Nintendo Bartop
« Reply #89 on: May 28, 2013, 07:32:35 pm »
Since you're good with soldering, you can save a few bucks by picking up a Minimus AVR, programming it with the KADE firmware, and soldering the wires yourself like Degenatrons did for his first AVR Encoder.




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Re: Popeye CRT Nintendo Bartop
« Reply #90 on: May 28, 2013, 08:07:18 pm »
1: I always solder on the big pasrt where the d-pad was on and that worked always very good and simple.
 But on this one at position
2: where the action buttons are, there is not much room for solder.... when I clean the place to get hold the solder, there is noting under it to get a grip, only at the small dot at the correct place.
3: for the ground I use always the other half of the d-pad and that's do the job, or do I have to drill a whole in the middle of the d-pad?
4:  Or do I have to clean up that little spot in between the circle, so I don't touch the ground area, and place a dot of solder there?
I had removed the triggers, but that was not a good idea, the menu was freaking out    :banghead:

I've done a ton of padhacks and the S controller can be a pain.  I used a Dremmel brush and took the black stuff off until I saw a bit of copper, the tiny dot you are talking about.  I would flux the area well and get a tiny drop of solder to stick on the copper.  Then I could get a very fine tinned kynar wire to stick to it.  After testing I put some hot glue over the solder point.  Sometimes the tiny point wouldn't work so I had to follow the traces on the pcb to the nest tiny dot and try there.

The ground is common so soldering to a spot off the dpad like you are used to is fine.  I personally would grab the ground from one of the triggers.

All that being said, check you PM's, this project is way too nice to have a padhack in it.

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Re: Popeye CRT Nintendo Bartop
« Reply #91 on: May 29, 2013, 06:50:11 pm »
Yesss,
Gamepad is working now, thanks for the hints guys    :applaud:

Tomorrow or Friday it's T-Molding time   
After that it's tweaking time and dive into Illustrator for the final prints to finish

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Re: Popeye CRT Nintendo Bartop
« Reply #92 on: May 29, 2013, 07:24:26 pm »
I'm glad you got it working.

Another tip: zip tie the wires together so they are less likely to pull off the padhack.

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Re: Popeye CRT Nintendo Bartop
« Reply #93 on: May 29, 2013, 10:54:37 pm »
zip tie the wires together so they are less likely to pull off the padhack.

+1 on that.

Strain relief is your friend on a delicate soldering job like this.

To further protect the solder connections, you can also zip tie the wire bundle to one of those holes on the PCB.


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Re: Popeye CRT Nintendo Bartop
« Reply #94 on: May 30, 2013, 04:37:25 am »
Tanks for the tips guys.

tonight it's secure time  :cheers:

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Re: Popeye CRT Nintendo Bartop
« Reply #95 on: May 30, 2013, 06:02:59 am »
It looks GREAT even with your test artwork - well done  :applaud:

What are you going to have the bezel artwork printed on? And how will you attach to the glass? Just curious as I would like to do something similar.

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Re: Popeye CRT Nintendo Bartop
« Reply #96 on: May 30, 2013, 10:59:52 am »
It looks GREAT even with your test artwork - well done  :applaud:

What are you going to have the bezel artwork printed on? And how will you attach to the glass? Just curious as I would like to do something similar.

Thanks,

I'm thinking of doing the same as with the marquee, 2 x Plexiglas.
I got some options for printing, but not ready for that stage... so I have some time  :angel:

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Re: Popeye CRT Nintendo Bartop
« Reply #97 on: May 30, 2013, 03:24:16 pm »
Everything is tight up en secured.
In my spare time I quickly made a remote control holder   >:D

Tomorrow it's T-Molding time.   
I have a day of so I can finish this baby before I go on holiday  :cheers:

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Re: Popeye CRT Nintendo Bartop
« Reply #98 on: May 30, 2013, 04:05:14 pm »
I couldn't resist to put the demo prints on..... man, it's HOT   >:D

Now I'm going into hacking the gamepad so all the buttons have to work tonight, so I can play a decent game of POPEYE

LOVE IT!!!!!!!!

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Re: Popeye CRT Nintendo Bartop
« Reply #99 on: May 31, 2013, 06:41:01 am »
The T-Molding thread ........

I'm 99% satisfied about the outcome   :angel:

Next thread I tell all about the 1 %  :laugh2:

Here some pictures ........

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Re: Popeye CRT Nintendo Bartop
« Reply #100 on: May 31, 2013, 08:46:27 am »
That's some quality work. Good job dude.

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« Reply #101 on: May 31, 2013, 01:58:19 pm »
I concur, this is a great little cabinet!  :cheers:

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Re: Popeye CRT Nintendo Bartop
« Reply #102 on: May 31, 2013, 04:14:22 pm »
Excellent job, well done, this is the most original bartop I've seen in a long long time.

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Re: Popeye CRT Nintendo Bartop
« Reply #103 on: May 31, 2013, 05:27:04 pm »
Yep, it's official, I want a Popeye somethin' fierce now.  Well done.   :applaud:  :applaud:

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Re: Popeye CRT Nintendo Bartop
« Reply #104 on: May 31, 2013, 07:14:08 pm »
Easily one of the nicest bar tops I've ever seen. The artwork really takes it up a level and always good to see some crt love!

 :applaud:

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Re: Popeye CRT Nintendo Bartop
« Reply #105 on: May 31, 2013, 09:17:18 pm »
I LOVE Nintendo cabinets, the 4 cabinets that made it into my house (and final set up) are all Nintendo.
This project is AMAZING ! I love that you maintained the shape of the cabinet, the speaker grill, the art, etc etc.
Simply amazing ! LOVE THIS

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Re: Popeye CRT Nintendo Bartop
« Reply #106 on: June 01, 2013, 02:50:18 am »
Thanks guys  :notworthy:

And it's not over yet.
More to come after the break  :cheers:

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Re: Popeye CRT Nintendo Bartop
« Reply #107 on: June 01, 2013, 03:44:20 am »
great job! very nice art :applaud:

Good decision from the beginning to put a CRT and not LCD ;D

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« Reply #108 on: June 01, 2013, 03:56:32 am »
great job! very nice art :applaud:

Good decision from the beginning to put a CRT and not LCD ;D

Thanks,

That's a very nice avatar you have  ;D
Sad to see how Amiga did end.... what if they did develop bigger upgrades for the Amiga.... They where better than Apple  >:D

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Re: Popeye CRT Nintendo Bartop
« Reply #109 on: June 01, 2013, 05:22:56 am »
great job! very nice art :applaud:

Good decision from the beginning to put a CRT and not LCD ;D

Thanks,

That's a very nice avatar you have  ;D
Sad to see how Amiga did end.... what if they did develop bigger upgrades for the Amiga.... They where better than Apple  >:D

Story of my life ... or rather a tragedy for me. :'(

No doubt if COMMODORE at 94 was not bankrupt, things would look different.

Just for example CD32 built it very quickly, to meet the market.

And The console  itself is amazing., But did not succeed the market, because companies did not want to develop to AMIGA...By the way have you ever thought to build a small arcade machine to CD32?

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Re: Popeye CRT Nintendo Bartop
« Reply #110 on: June 01, 2013, 06:38:32 am »
My prev. build ( MameCade 2.0 ) had the Amiga cd32 emulator in it  >:D
Some classic games i like to play with.

I started with the C16, C64, Amiga 500 and the Amiga 1200... Then it became very quite for a long time  :censored:
That was the time I HAD to step over to a pc, before the pc never was a option because the Amiga did the job very well for me.

Even the CDTV was a nice product, but fail to hit the marked. It was not the right time at the right place  :hissy: 
What happens with the cd32 was also the case with the dreamcast back then.

But hey, we had a good time with it  :cheers:

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Re: Popeye CRT Nintendo Bartop
« Reply #111 on: June 19, 2013, 09:00:23 am »
Great work superfrog!  Wondering how you made your marquee.  It almost looks like a door sill plate. 

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« Reply #112 on: June 19, 2013, 11:20:05 am »
Your right,
Look back the W.I.P. pictures update1-f and update1-g ...

That's the fun part of the progress, because you can't use the original parts ( it's downsize 50% ) you have to custom made some things.

No time yet for design the prints  :banghead:



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Re: Popeye CRT Nintendo Bartop
« Reply #113 on: June 21, 2013, 04:50:07 pm »
Easily one of the nicest bar tops I've ever seen. The artwork really takes it up a level and always good to see some crt love!

 :applaud:

+1. I really love this build and if I ever build a bartop myself, I'd go with this design for sure. :cheers:

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« Reply #114 on: July 02, 2013, 04:58:04 pm »
Started with the final and BIG job....... The Artwork..

Not use to work with Illustrator, so it's a slow progress, but it keeps me from the streets  :creeper:

Marguee is the first thing to finish..

I had some Illustrator files, but i'm very picky and "perfection" is my middle name, So I redo the whole thing  :banghead:

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Re: Popeye CRT Nintendo Bartop
« Reply #115 on: July 09, 2013, 05:55:41 pm »
Marquee is done......    :notworthy:

It was a hell of a job..... up to the CP   :cheers:

Edit: Animated Gif
« Last Edit: July 13, 2013, 07:58:47 am by Superfrog »

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« Reply #116 on: July 09, 2013, 07:15:43 pm »
I love MameCade... that finish is totally flawless...

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Re: Popeye CRT Nintendo Bartop
« Reply #117 on: July 18, 2013, 11:32:11 am »
It's a very slow progress, but the outcome is very satisfying   >:D

Had to re position the arrows a bit, because they where a little bit off.

Just like the blue color of the bartop, it's a hell of a   :banghead: to got the right color for the artwork.
I got plenty of pictures of the Popeye nintendo cabinet, but the colors are all different.
So, is there somebody out there who owns a popeye cab and can tell me what picture has the right color   :notworthy:

Just like the big punch star, sometimes is orange, then yellow or a combination of these two... even the skin tones   :banghead:  :banghead:

Thanks and back to work on the Brutus

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Re: Popeye CRT Nintendo Bartop
« Reply #118 on: July 19, 2013, 11:38:06 am »
I absolutely love the Nintendo cabs, and this bartop is a great tribute. Really nice work. Can I ask what you used for your marquee retainers? They look really sharp.

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Re: Popeye CRT Nintendo Bartop
« Reply #119 on: July 19, 2013, 02:03:34 pm »
That's 2 pieces of U-Aluminium and a L-Aluminium strip.
Top of the marquee is a aluminium door strip.

Just got creative once in a while  ;)