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Malenko:
i still say drop the "start game" and start button labels, and line those start buttons up. Also , the layout looks a little cramped, find an NBA Jam template and work with those stick's locations.
The good news is when you hate this layout in a few months, you'll just need to redrill a CP and get new art printed. Everyone designs a panel like this the first time, then asks for feedback, feedback is ignored, citing personal preference, panel is made. A while later OP posts how they should have listened and then does it the way suggested. At least you wont have buyer's remorse on the spinner, tron stick, separate 4way, and or trackball you bought and never used.
Here goes the need for 8 buttons:
Turbo Graphix 16, Master System, and NES only had 2 (plus start & select on NES)
SNES only had 6 ( you have a start button and select is very rarely used)
Genesis had 3 or 6 plus start, so its covered.
3DO had 3 plus start and select
NeoGeo had 4 plus start
DreamCast had 6 plus start
Playstation and Saturn did have 8, but very few games need all 8 buttons,of those games that did need 8 even less would be good to play on an arcade machine
so yeah 6 will cover you for pretty much any console game you want to play at an arcade machine. I'm a fan of the 7 button layout because the bottom row makes good for NeoGeo and the first 3 buttons on that row make an excellent NBA Jam style Jamma layout.
kinda like this:
obviously not to scale and everything isnt lined up exactly, but cut me some slack, Im at work.
gr3yh47:
--- Quote from: Malenko on March 28, 2013, 02:13:15 pm ---i still say drop the "start game" and start button labels, and line those start buttons up.
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It looks too empty without the art there for my taste. I like the text and labels, especially since its the only art up there.
--- Quote ---The good news is when you hate this layout in a few months, you'll just need to redrill a CP and get new art printed. Everyone designs a panel like this the first time, then asks for feedback, feedback is ignored, citing personal preference, panel is made. A while later OP posts how they should have listened and then does it the way suggested.
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I get that you're trying to help but you make it sound like there is only one right way to layout a CP. I've taken some of the advice, and not taken some. it's just a bit different, and I think I've stated some good reasons for the things I am doing differently, NOT just citing personal preference.
--- Quote ---so yeah 6 will cover you for pretty much any console game you want to play at an arcade machine. I'm a fan of the 7 button layout because the bottom row makes good for NeoGeo and the first 3 buttons on that row make an excellent NBA Jam style Jamma layout.
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I want comfort and flexibility in the smallest space possible. the 7 button layout only saves space in your example because the 7th button seems uncomfortably close to the joystick. the 8 button layout gives players 2 options for 6 button positioning, 2 options for snk positioning, and many options for 3 and 4 button positioning, in about the same amount of space as a 7 button layout. In fact, your 7 button layout takes up more space than my curved 8 button layout for the buttons (same amount horizontally, much more vertically), and where you put your joystick the dustwasher will hit the red button when moving down or right
i mean good gravy from your post you'd think i was doing this :p
next update will be the plywood test.
Malenko:
--- Quote from: gr3yh47 on March 28, 2013, 07:32:47 pm ---I want comfort and flexibility in the smallest space possible. the 7 button layout only saves space in your example because the 7th button seems uncomfortably close to the joystick. the 8 button layout gives players 2 options for 6 button positioning, 2 options for snk positioning, and many options for 3 and 4 button positioning, in about the same amount of space as a 7 button layout. In fact, your 7 button layout takes up more space than my curved 8 button layout for the buttons (same amount horizontally, much more vertically), and where you put your joystick the dustwasher will hit the red button when moving down or right
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--- Quote from: Malenko on March 28, 2013, 02:13:15 pm ---obviously not to scale and everything isnt lined up exactly, but cut me some slack, Im at work.
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Its your cab, have at it. When you change it down the road don't post about it then you can just say how wrong I was :) As for the pic, yeah, Ive been to crap MAME and its a pretty obvious photoshop. And you can put the start button logos ON THE BUTTON instead of the art. No worries, I digress, I'm not gonna be the guy who gums up your project thread, but this is what a Galaga is supposed to look like:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,129554.0.html
:cheers:
gr3yh47:
--- Quote ---Its your cab, have at it. When you change it down the road don't post about it then you can just say how wrong I was :) As for the pic, yeah, Ive been to crap MAME and its a pretty obvious photoshop. And you can put the start button logos ON THE BUTTON instead of the art. No worries, I digress, I'm not gonna be the guy who gums up your project thread, but this is what a Galaga is supposed to look like:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,129554.0.html
:cheers:
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Nice restore there. Someday I'll have a dedicated galaga cab myself... it's my grail too :)
I'll be the first to admit I'm wrong if the layout doesnt work out :P and I really do appreciate all your suggestions. :cheers:
micahman33:
NOOO!! I absolutely love that machine you are modifying. NBA on NBC was probably my favorite arcade game of all time. Unfortunately I havent seen anyone getting it to work well on MAME...I think Dreamcast emulator is the closest you can get without buying the actual board. Even though I dont really have the space for another arcade machine, it would be nearly impossible for me to turn down an original showtime/blitz machine.
Enough about me, good luck with the build!
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