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lilshawn:
win8 has it's place just like OSX has it's place and XP has it's place. sometimes an OS's faults in one area can work to an advantage in others when applied correctly.

hypernova:

--- Quote from: Malenko on March 19, 2013, 12:10:48 pm ---I didnt use Ninite to get it , its http://www.classicshell.net/ , which is the program I listed earlier.  "Classic Start Menu 3.6.5" , but I forgot to put up a link to it, lol.
Hypernova: The shortcuts work but that doesnt deter from the fact they made windows harder to use. its a GUI not a CLI :)

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I'd agree with you, as well as lilshawn.  Those kinds of changes are the most annoying, because sometimes they've even changed the shortcut (which most people don't tend to know in the first place).  I don't have any plans on switching to 8 ever, but it will have its uses.  But it shouldn't take forever to figure out how to do a simple command that was quick and easy in the past, and the necessity of downloading a start menu mod in order to get basic functionality is a pain.  I used to always change the start menu prior to 7 back to classic because I hated the new version.  Since 7 doesn't seem to offer that capability, I've learned to adapt to the change.  Still don't particularly like it as much, but it's tolerable now.

Gray_Area:

--- Quote from: hypernova on March 19, 2013, 08:31:33 pm ---
--- Quote from: Malenko on March 19, 2013, 12:10:48 pm ---I didnt use Ninite to get it , its http://www.classicshell.net/ , which is the program I listed earlier.  "Classic Start Menu 3.6.5" , but I forgot to put up a link to it, lol.
Hypernova: The shortcuts work but that doesnt deter from the fact they made windows harder to use. its a GUI not a CLI :)

--- End quote ---

I'd agree with you, as well as lilshawn.  Those kinds of changes are the most annoying, because sometimes they've even changed the shortcut (which most people don't tend to know in the first place).  I don't have any plans on switching to 8 ever, but it will have its uses.  But it shouldn't take forever to figure out how to do a simple command that was quick and easy in the past, and the necessity of downloading a start menu mod in order to get basic functionality is a pain.  I used to always change the start menu prior to 7 back to classic because I hated the new version.  Since 7 doesn't seem to offer that capability, I've learned to adapt to the change.  Still don't particularly like it as much, but it's tolerable now.

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I've said it more than once: classic was old fart gui. XP blue was AWE-soMe. Now for a long spell I've been using 'classic folders', because I found I didn't need the features of 'show common tasks', and preferred the real estate without it. I still, however, keep my browser favorites menu up 24/7 (at left - I long ago tried it in other places, but prefer it at left).

mystic96:

--- Quote from: ark_ader on March 18, 2013, 10:36:40 pm ---But it is the same as Win7 with a few modifications.

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I'm sorry, I meant to make this a jovial response pointing out the inaccuracy of this statement... and it turned into a monster. That said...

Sorry, but no. Just... no. 8 is leaps and bounds better than 7 for a multitude of reasons. And I'm not just talking about things you can see (task manager, file copy dialog, etc.). The inclusion of the Server 2012 hypervisor alone puts this OS in a league of it's own. But let me mention core tweaks including secure booting, a nearly impenetrable kernel, faster booting, better overall performance over 7, power management and savings for laptops/tablets, improved Explorer, native VHD and ISO mounting, and other countless other additions that come from the Server side. I could probably double the size of this post with additions and improvements alone. Now that's not to say there are NO negatives about the OS... but the positives far, far outweigh them. Don't even get me started on corporate security and administrative mechanisms. Bluntly, this is the most incorrect statement about 8 I've ever seen. Windows 8 is not simply an upgrade to 7 - it's a complete re-write. MS spent over 10 billion dollars developing 8 and 2012, and for the first time in over a decade (I believe) they even added a core requirement to all new software releases (that it be completely manageable via Powershell.. but don't get me started on how ridiculously amazing PS is).

Does that mean 8 is the best for everybody? Yes and no. I wrote a few different/additional tangents, but ultimately I understand that people are simply resistant to change and learn at different rates. If I need to learn a new OS, I can load a VM and do my due diligence. Unfortunately, that isn't feasible for everybody, and I get it. But if you have the ability to load 8 and spend the time learning it - then you really owe it to yourself to do so.

No, I don't work for Microsoft nor do I own any stock in them. Maybe someday though ;)

To stay on topic, I tried XP 64 to start (machine is i7 w/ 16gb of ram) but had driver issues with my ArcadeVGA and didn't want to bother Andy with it - so just switched to 7. The only reason I went XP to start was because it requires less overhead and I assumed it would have better compatibility. Maybe this would hold more truth if it was the 32 bit variant, but I haven't been active in the emulation community since around 2007 so who knows.

lilshawn:
I think 32 bit variants of OS's generally have better hardware/software support due to the fact that the majority of users are running 32. so they focus their effort on developing their software to run on that.

I'm running win7 32 bit on my beast and have wondered if there would be any kind of benefit to switching to 64bit.

I realize it's all in the data chunk processing size. but my system is (at this minute  >:D) an overclocked 4.4 Ghz 8 core FX8350...but I only run 4 gig of memory, so I haven't seen a reason thus far to switch. Stuff happens fast enough for me not to worry about it. I dunno, I suppose maybe it's time I switched to 64. maybe not.  :dunno guess if i upgrade much more I'll have to.

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