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Author Topic: Project RetroCade - FINISHED  (Read 119453 times)

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Re: Scratch Build: Project RetroCade - artwork finished...
« Reply #120 on: December 21, 2013, 11:03:02 pm »
This build is coming out real nice.

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Re: Scratch Build: Project RetroCade - artwork finished...
« Reply #121 on: December 25, 2013, 07:55:18 pm »
Couple of cool ideas on this. 

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Re: Scratch Build: Project RetroCade - artwork finished...
« Reply #122 on: January 19, 2014, 10:53:56 am »
10 days ago finally I got this in the mail from GameOnGrafix:



Unfortunately I was all packed to go skying in France...

 

As you can see quite diverse weather conditions but had a great time.

This morning I returned after a 12 hour bus trip.  :dizzy:

I could not resist unpacking after a couple of hours of family time. Quality was even better than I had hoped and expected.

I decided to mount the marquee as that was all prepared:

 

I was a bit worried about the amount of light from the PC case modding cold cathode lights and seeing the thickness of the printed marquee and its fully white back did not help. But after mounting I could not be happier  :cheers:

 

The details are amazing:

 

It only shows a little bit of light bleeding on the left and right sides. It's not even very notable but I will try to minimize it somehow.

The side art vinyl and polycarbonate covered CP also came out great. Thanks again Scott!!! I used part of my DVD collection to flatten the large vinyl stickers.



I will redo the CP using the paper printed template and have to figure out how to best apply the vinyl on the side and trim the edges.


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Re: Scratch Build: Project RetroCade - GameOnGrafix rules...
« Reply #123 on: January 19, 2014, 11:36:37 am »
I had the same issue with my marquee.



I just trimmed 2 small sections of the marquee retainer (I used drywall edgeguards from the wallpaper department). 



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Re: Scratch Build: Project RetroCade - GameOnGrafix rules...
« Reply #124 on: January 19, 2014, 12:55:20 pm »
I had the same issue with my marquee.

I just trimmed 2 small sections of the marquee retainer (I used drywall edgeguards from the wallpaper department). 

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I will put very small black strips behind the plexi to block the light without seeing something from the outside as it is VERY VERY little light as you can see in the picture:


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Re: Scratch Build: Project RetroCade - GameOnGrafix rules...
« Reply #125 on: January 19, 2014, 01:10:04 pm »
Artwork looks great.
I agree that gameongrafix does very nice work.

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Re: Scratch Build: Project RetroCade - GameOnGrafix rules...
« Reply #126 on: January 19, 2014, 03:49:39 pm »
Yeah, GameOnGraphics are great. The artwork you have is great! :cheers:

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Re: Scratch Build: Project RetroCade - GameOnGrafix rules...
« Reply #127 on: January 20, 2014, 02:49:49 am »
Looking good, just let the sides where you see light rest. because its new you see that detail, i dont think you will mind it in a week or so, if you gonne mask it it could be attract attention.
but cant really tell from the picture how big of gape it is.

As for the side art, if you are gonna apply it yourself, unpeel a small part at the top, apply it , and use your hands constantly to flatten it to get it bubble free.
if you feel a bubble, pull it back, this can be done many times (on laminated sides that is) i dont know how it will result on paint, if you have a bubble you cannot remove then you can use a small needle and make a tiny hole to let the air out.

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Re: Scratch Build: Project RetroCade - GameOnGrafix rules...
« Reply #128 on: January 20, 2014, 04:32:59 am »
Looking good, just let the sides where you see light rest. because its new you see that detail, i dont think you will mind it in a week or so, if you gonne mask it it could be attract attention.
but cant really tell from the picture how big of gape it is.

As for the side art, if you are gonna apply it yourself, unpeel a small part at the top, apply it , and use your hands constantly to flatten it to get it bubble free.
if you feel a bubble, pull it back, this can be done many times (on laminated sides that is) i dont know how it will result on paint, if you have a bubble you cannot remove then you can use a small needle and make a tiny hole to let the air out.

good luck
I read in a topic from Maximus (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,137008.msg1413116.html#msg1413116) he sprays water with some dish washing liquid and uses a roller to apply the vinyl. I guess I will make a test run on a piece of scrap wood, also to route the edges. It's too expensive to ruin the artwork. Any tips on the trimming?

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Re: Scratch Build: Project RetroCade - GameOnGrafix rules...
« Reply #129 on: January 20, 2014, 05:18:29 am »
i did router trick on the first cab. messy but perfect, dont forget to add some sort of soft material to guide the router , so it wont scratch the laminate to much
2nd with Stanley knife (fresh ultra sharp) but the knife does not cut the laminate so i have some sort of guide. i think it will run into the painted wood


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Re: Scratch Build: Project RetroCade - GameOnGrafix rules...
« Reply #130 on: January 20, 2014, 05:25:49 am »
i did router trick on the first cab. messy but perfect, dont forget to add some sort of soft material to guide the router , so it wont scratch the laminate to much
2nd with Stanley knife (fresh ultra sharp) but the knife does not cut the laminate so i have some sort of guide. i think it will run into the painted wood
Messy? You mean the cut vinyl is scattered through the whole room so I should do this outside?

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Re: Scratch Build: Project RetroCade - GameOnGrafix rules...
« Reply #131 on: January 20, 2014, 05:33:46 am »
yes i did it inside, it sticks on everything  :laugh:

it will also stick to the router and its bit and feet

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Re: Scratch Build: Project RetroCade - GameOnGrafix rules...
« Reply #132 on: January 20, 2014, 09:28:04 am »
I've done wet app with good results over the years. If it's a smaller piece I'll dry apply top down with lots of taping and guiding. Wet app is easier because you and slide it around, if you are painted and full size I'd do a wet app. You can put a terry cloth under the squeegee to protect the art is your edge isn't that soft.

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Re: Scratch Build: Project RetroCade - appying sideart...
« Reply #133 on: February 05, 2014, 11:03:18 am »
Today I finally found some spare time to work on the project. I fully disassembled the cab and fitted the sideart when the cab was laying on its side in the living room.



Perfect fit with 1cm bleed on every side. I roughly cut itto shape as I need some scrap vinyl because I first do a test run on applying the sticker and flush trimming the edges with my router.



I also have to fill and sand the holes for the pinball buttons in the sidepanel. I think the buttons will not look nice in the side art and as I'm building a arcade cabinet and not a wannabe pinball machine...
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Re: Scratch Build: Project RetroCade - appying sideart...
« Reply #134 on: February 05, 2014, 03:33:52 pm »
I first do a test run on applying the sticker and flush trimming the edges with my router.
Why not use an X-Acto/hobby knife with a new #11 blade like recommended in the Side Art Install 101 tutorial?



Seems like the base of the router could scratch up the art and the vinyl could stick to the bit.   :dunno


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Re: Scratch Build: Project RetroCade - started with applying the sideart
« Reply #135 on: February 05, 2014, 04:34:22 pm »
I use these.  The larger bevel allows more control.



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« Reply #136 on: February 05, 2014, 04:41:37 pm »
I first do a test run on applying the sticker and flush trimming the edges with my router.
Why not use an X-Acto/hobby knife with a new #11 blade like recommended in the Side Art Install 101 tutorial?



Seems like the base of the router could scratch up the art and the vinyl could stick to the bit.   :dunno


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That's why I will do a test run first. Trimming with a router is done by the 2 great builders I got my inspiration from (Maximus and Martijn). I don't wanna ruin the (quite expensive) sideart.

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Re: Scratch Build: Project RetroCade - started with applying the sideart
« Reply #137 on: February 05, 2014, 04:55:13 pm »


This is what it's like giving any advice to EMDB.

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Re: Scratch Build: Project RetroCade - started with applying the sideart
« Reply #138 on: February 05, 2014, 04:57:51 pm »


This is what it's like giving any advice to EMDB.

 :laugh2: :cheers:
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Re: Scratch Build: Project RetroCade - started with applying the sideart
« Reply #139 on: February 05, 2014, 05:20:34 pm »
This is what it's like giving any advice to EMDB.
He did eventually come around on threaded inserts:duckhunt


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Re: Scratch Build: Project RetroCade - started with applying the sideart
« Reply #140 on: February 05, 2014, 09:25:54 pm »
Never heard of routing the sideart.  Guess I don't pay attention.  Now, routing laminate, that's a go.  :blackbelt

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Re: Scratch Build: Project RetroCade - started with applying the sideart
« Reply #141 on: February 06, 2014, 03:01:53 am »
*Cough* *Cough* i did the exacto knife on my marvel cabinet, and even with a brand new scalpel or razor of high quality, it sometimes during a smooth cut it goes into a stutter (especially with small round corners). or because its freehand, during a corner, you can cut at a different angle, it will make difference, because under the art is a white layer, it will be more visible then when you cut at a straight line.

Talking about 0,05mm differences here , but the stutter is the worst. Mierenneukerij  :cheers:

I don't have any stutter or different trim angles when i use my router.

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« Reply #142 on: February 06, 2014, 04:53:10 am »
I was thinking more of the "fold it over the edge and trim at the t-molding slot" method where the t-molding holds down the edge.   :dunno


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Re: Scratch Build: Project RetroCade - started with applying the sideart
« Reply #143 on: February 06, 2014, 05:32:33 am »
There are more roads that lead to Rome  :angel:

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Re: Scratch Build: Project RetroCade - started with applying the sideart
« Reply #144 on: February 06, 2014, 07:31:37 am »
...you can cut at a different angle, it will make difference, because under the art is a white layer, it will be more visible then when you cut at a straight line.

This really showed up on my darkade build just because that wrap was so, well, dark.  After I trimmed I used a fat tip sharpy and ran it along the edge of the paper to black in all that white, looked great.  Now its pretty much standard practice for me. 

Haven't tried routing but I'd recommend coating the bottom of the router in contact paper trimmed to size just to smooth things along, either that or a cut peice of foam glued on like what is used as sanding pads - just something to protect the art. 

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« Reply #145 on: February 06, 2014, 08:25:53 am »
...you can cut at a different angle, it will make difference, because under the art is a white layer, it will be more visible then when you cut at a straight line.

This really showed up on my darkade build just because that wrap was so, well, dark.  After I trimmed I used a fat tip sharpy and ran it along the edge of the paper to black in all that white, looked great.  Now its pretty much standard practice for me. 

Haven't tried routing but I'd recommend coating the bottom of the router in contact paper trimmed to size just to smooth things along, either that or a cut peice of foam glued on like what is used as sanding pads - just something to protect the art.
Yes I will add some temporarily soft layer to the base of my router while trimming...

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Re: Scratch Build: Project RetroCade - started with applying the sideart
« Reply #146 on: February 07, 2014, 02:03:58 am »
Router trimmed artwork



Nuff said  :afro:

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« Reply #147 on: February 07, 2014, 03:15:09 am »
Looks great.   :cheers:

Any special tips like pre-trimming the outer edges within a certain distance to keep the vinyl from sagging/snagging whiile routing?


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Re: Scratch Build: Project RetroCade - started with applying the sideart
« Reply #148 on: February 07, 2014, 10:20:45 am »
Re-thinking the routing thing.  I think my problem is my flush trim bit is HUGE!  Probably better with a laminate bit.

hmmm...

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« Reply #149 on: February 09, 2014, 09:44:09 am »
I painted a scrap piece of MDF just like my cab.



Than I applied a scrap piece of the sideart using some spray of water with a drup of dishwasher fluid and a wallpaper roller. I could not move the sicker anymore once the first part stuck to the MDF. Maybe I was too careful with the fluid? It was quite easy anyway. I did notice I was not that careful with sanding the MDF after applying the primer and the surface was not as smooth as that from my cab. Still the result was pretty good.



I put some soft protective sticker at the base of my routr to protect the artwork.



Routing went very smooth. I cut the vinyl to only have a couple of millimeters left from the edge. After the first go I noticed some very tiny white parts on the cutting edge. After a second run they were all gone and the cut was amazingly sharp.

 

I'm confident this is the method I'm going to use on the sideart itself.

I filled the holes of the pinball switches on the sides with putty. After sanding there were some small irregularities so I added some more putty. In 2 hours I can sand it once more...
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Re: Scratch Build: Project RetroCade - started with applying the sideart
« Reply #150 on: February 09, 2014, 11:59:28 am »
 :applaud: :cheers:

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« Reply #151 on: February 09, 2014, 01:44:03 pm »
ROCKS!  Totally awesome.   :notworthy:
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« Reply #152 on: February 12, 2014, 05:37:21 am »
Kids to school, wife to work... Time for some work to be done  :D

I applied the first sideart vinyl. I decided along the way not to apply wet and to use a cloth instead of a roller to apply force to prevent air bubbles. Went very smooth.



I wanted to fire up my favorite tool for this project, my router. But... the power switch broke off and left the router inoperable  :angry:

As I didn't want to miss the opportunity to finish the sideart I forced the switch in on position and blocked it with some metal pin.



Routing went find fine just like my practice round.

 

Then I did side 2:



Time so see the final result. Very happy  :applaud:  :cheers:

 
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Re: Scratch Build: Project RetroCade - sideart applied!
« Reply #153 on: February 12, 2014, 06:09:44 am »
Yep good job indeed, those curves are trimmed beautifully.



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Re: Scratch Build: Project RetroCade - started with applying the sideart
« Reply #154 on: February 12, 2014, 08:12:34 am »
Kids to school, wife to work... Time for some work to be done  :D
I wanted to fire up my favorite tool for this project, my router. But... the power switch broke off and left the router inoperable  :angry:

As I didn't want to miss the opportunity to finish the sideart I forced the switch in on position and blocked it with some metal pin.




Like to live life dangerously there  :laugh2:  Hope you had someone to plug it in and unplug it for you  :laugh2: :laugh2:  At least you were using a pattern bit and not a slot cutter.

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Re: Scratch Build: Project RetroCade - sideart applied!
« Reply #155 on: February 12, 2014, 11:50:21 am »
Love the shape of this cab.  Art is beautiful!

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Re: Scratch Build: Project RetroCade - sideart applied!
« Reply #156 on: February 12, 2014, 12:48:27 pm »
Hey, nice work, mr Danger! :cheers:

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« Reply #157 on: February 12, 2014, 01:35:01 pm »
Like to live life dangerously there  :laugh2:  Hope you had someone to plug it in and unplug it for you  :laugh2: :laugh2:  At least you were using a pattern bit and not a slot cutter.
I had my right hand to unplug  ;D
Hey, nice work, mr Danger! :cheers:
Thanks. I will open the router to see how to somehow fix this. An on/off switch on the body itself it more safe but I didn't want the router to retire yet...

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Re: Scratch Build: Project RetroCade - sideart applied!
« Reply #158 on: February 14, 2014, 05:07:33 pm »
Unfortunately my router died. It was to dangerous to operate without the power switch. I opened it to try to fix the power switch but I could not reach it and was unable to assemble it back.



I can not start on my final control panel using the printed template from GoG. I searched for a used same model on Marktplaats (our Dutch craigslist) as I really liked the slim model which makes routing real easy. I found one unused - still in the box - for a good price (20 euros, about 27 dollar). Hopefully it will be shipped soon...

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Re: Scratch Build: Project RetroCade - sideart applied!
« Reply #159 on: February 15, 2014, 08:50:56 am »
I want to see this project completed, so you can use my router if you'd like.  :afro: I'm in Austria if you feel like a quick drive!