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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #280 on: January 19, 2014, 06:04:59 am »
Ves any chance of maybe adding the new Attract-Mode Frontend program to the Beta.......

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,135704.0.html

Also what about the arcade ambient 80s and 90s mp3 files think there 4 in total?

http://arcade.hofle.com/

Also is .7z rom files supported now for merged romsets ?
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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #281 on: January 19, 2014, 05:15:19 pm »
Ves any chance of maybe adding the new Attract-Mode Frontend program to the Beta.......

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,135704.0.html

Also what about the arcade ambient 80s and 90s mp3 files think there 4 in total?

http://arcade.hofle.com/

Also is .7z rom files supported now for merged romsets ?

This FE looks great. I currently use Hyperspin because I like the movies but a linux FE with video would be great.

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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #282 on: January 19, 2014, 08:53:17 pm »
Hello, GroovyArcade Beta https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B0NB2HYUHHktUFZXTWJfbHpzUlE&usp=sharing

Hi VES, thank you again for all the hard work that everyone puts into these builds. Would it be possible to get a quick summary of the changes in the beta build? Just so I know whats changed and what I should be testing. Thanks.

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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #283 on: January 20, 2014, 11:37:30 am »
Alright, so got everything installed and updated.  Used the build scripts from the Google Code GIT repository and built a custom version of 3.12.8 (still had to use --skipcheck) and got it installed with the patched versions of the ATI driver.  Aside from the oddities with some games wanting to run at 48KHz (at one point this even included pacman), everything seems to be working fine.  The only issue I'm having is that Stella seems to be looking for an older version of LibPNG, and one game installed from user repos fails to install because of a lack of "lzma-decode".
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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #284 on: January 21, 2014, 09:05:05 am »
Communication for linux users: here you can find the 15KHz patches for linux 3.13.
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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #285 on: January 28, 2014, 03:41:54 am »
I may be doing this wrong but I want to force my Tri-sync (Weiya d3129) to only output 15hz. When I run it through the JPAC (for the video boost) it splits the image into two because advmenu is a 31hz image.
In the groovyarcade menu I set 'monitor type' to "arcade 15" and the 'grub boot' menu to 'VGA 15hz'. In the advmenu config I can see the screen res is set to '640'. Is there a way to run this through the JPAC with an interlaced 15hz picture instead?

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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #286 on: January 28, 2014, 05:21:58 pm »
I switch from 15 to 31 kHz for Polostar from gasetup just like you describe, and had no issues so far. Could it be that your monitor has an EDID? Check xorg.conf and see which modeline is being placed in there. That's the one that should be being used by Advmenu.
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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #287 on: January 29, 2014, 03:01:42 am »
I switch from 15 to 31 kHz for Polostar from gasetup just like you describe, and had no issues so far. Could it be that your monitor has an EDID? Check xorg.conf and see which modeline is being placed in there. That's the one that should be being used by Advmenu.

Hi Calamity,

Thanks for the reply. My screen works fine without the JPAC but it's very dark. When I run it through the JPAC the picture is much brighter but it's still splits the advmenu image and it also has a flashing to the screen.

I have attached my xorg.conf file. I can see it is 640x480x60 should that be 640x480x30 for interlaced? Also trying to work out what the flashing is. Could it be my screen pot on the flyback up to high now the picture is brighter?

Video card I am using is a ATI x600

This is also the link to the flashing video. I can see switchres sets the right resolution and refresh rate but it just flashes.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4a-M68Wv7elMkI4a3pIZlA0cFU/edit?usp=sharing

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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #288 on: February 02, 2014, 07:15:34 pm »
I switch from 15 to 31 kHz for Polostar from gasetup just like you describe, and had no issues so far. Could it be that your monitor has an EDID? Check xorg.conf and see which modeline is being placed in there. That's the one that should be being used by Advmenu.

Hi Calamity, do you use a JPAC with this setup? From what I am reading you can't use a JPAC for video on some tri-sync monitors.

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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #289 on: February 03, 2014, 07:40:15 am »
Thinking of using GroovyArcade for an older computer that I have laying around (with an AGP ATI Rage 128 videocard) that I have to use with a Wells Gardner arcade monitor (through a J-PAC).

Where is the current source tree and build scripts?  The GIT repo mentioned at https://code.google.com/p/groovyarcade/source/checkout appears to be empty.

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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #290 on: February 03, 2014, 10:37:56 am »
Thinking of using GroovyArcade for an older computer that I have laying around (with an AGP ATI Rage 128 videocard) that I have to use with a Wells Gardner arcade monitor (through a J-PAC).

Where is the current source tree and build scripts?  The GIT repo mentioned at https://code.google.com/p/groovyarcade/source/checkout appears to be empty.

Hi offset,
some of the sources can be found on the GIT address by changing the repository from 'default' to' diff'. The ISO image can be downloaded from the 'Project home' link.

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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #291 on: February 03, 2014, 05:01:00 pm »
Hi Calamity, do you use a JPAC with this setup? From what I am reading you can't use a JPAC for video on some tri-sync monitors.

No, I don't use a JPAC with my tri-sync (Polostar). However, I believe it's just a matter of removing the required jumpers, to allow the right frequencies.

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I have attached my xorg.conf file. I can see it is 640x480x60 should that be 640x480x30 for interlaced? Also trying to work out what the flashing is. Could it be my screen pot on the flyback up to high now the picture is brighter?

The modeline you posted is interlaced, so this should be right. It's odd that you get a split screen. Maybe the JPAC is not responding right to the signal? Try to get the jumpers properly set.

Is the flashing related to interlaced resolutions?
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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #292 on: February 03, 2014, 05:52:56 pm »
Ves any chance of maybe adding the new Attract-Mode Frontend program to the Beta.......

As far as I know Attract-Mode is going to be added, although the setup will be manual (no ROM path setup through gasetup).

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Also is .7z rom files supported now for merged romsets ?

This is supported since recent versions of Advmenuplus (check in the google site), I have it working with a .7z merged romset here.
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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #293 on: February 10, 2014, 09:59:43 am »
Can I play video clips of games as my screen saver that changes every couple of minutes instead of the still snapshots?

Anyone have this running on their Groovy Arcade ADV Menu setup?


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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #294 on: February 14, 2014, 11:46:33 am »

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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #295 on: February 14, 2014, 10:12:52 pm »
Hi, I have published new beta version, with new features and changes.
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B0NB2HYUHHktUFZXTWJfbHpzUlE&usp=sharing]https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B0NB2HYUHHktUFZXTWJfbHpzUlE&usp=sharing"]https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B0NB2HYUHHktUFZXTWJfbHpzUlE&usp=sharing

jtslade , videos can be used as a screen saver, you just need MNG files.

Thank you for adding attract-mode. I was having issues compiling it myself :) Testing everything now.

Video in a FE for linux is great, can't wait for more layouts to come out. Everything seems to be working well so far and I am getting better performance out of the cave driver (guessing this is to do with the newer kernel/GPU drivers)
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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #296 on: February 16, 2014, 10:57:40 am »
Thanks Ves.
Beta works very well on my PC (better than the previous version, i have a Core E8400 + 2Go + HD4850)
AttractMode is a good choise (i'm the french translator) and Archlinux definitely rocks !


Diff for Kernel source, Xf86-video-ati driver, sdl, ect.... are updated ? Do you know where i can grab them ?
I want to test on my own archlinux install (very slim with few packages).


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Running too slow or too fast
« Reply #297 on: March 29, 2014, 09:51:39 am »
Hi,

I have installed the CD on a old system with a Pentium 4 2,8GHz and an old arcadevga card 7000 series. The display is an lcd screen (1080p). Screen choice = lcd. When I use OpenGL the games on my horizontal monitor run too fast. When I use ddraw or d3d games run too fast. Throttle is set to 1 by the way.

Please help for sorting out this problem.

Thanks!

BTW: When I choose another screen (arcade 31kHz, everything runs at perfect speed). The image is not sharp though.
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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #298 on: March 30, 2014, 04:18:57 pm »
Hi eewoke,

Using an ancient AVGA to drive a full HD LCD screen is a rather odd setup IMHO. That said, open source Linux drivers are very slow performing scaling, that's why the "lcd" preset doesn't work well in Linux. Instead, use one of the "vesa" settings.
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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #299 on: March 31, 2014, 02:06:34 am »
You are right. It all had to do with the higher resolution. Thanks!

Ik connected the pc equiped with GroovyMame via a jpac to a vertical arcade machine. The speed of the majority of the games are perfect. But, the image is upside down when I play the games. The image of AdvanceMenu was simple to change by hitting the zero. But how do I get all the mame games to display the image 180 degrees? What do I have to change in the mame ini settings or other settings?

Thanks for helping!

BTW: Will there be a 32 bit version if the new Live-Cd? I am only interested in playing the 80's arcade games.....nostalgia........ ;-)

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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #300 on: March 31, 2014, 04:01:18 am »
Communication for linux users: here you can find the 15KHz patches for linux 3.14.
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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #301 on: March 31, 2014, 07:59:05 am »
But, the image is upside down when I play the games.

In mame.ini, select either "orientation rotate_r" or "orientation rotate_l", depending on how your monitor is physically rotated. This should do the trick.
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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #302 on: March 31, 2014, 08:26:55 am »
Thanks! But this did not work until I set flipx and flipy to 1. Now it works like a charm!

Just one question left: Are there alternative settings available for Advancemenu+ by alterning the .rc? I like to see a smaller picture presented on my vertical screen and a larger font. Now the letters are too small for me. All current presettings I can get by pressing Tab have a font that is too smal for my vertical screen. Also, on a horizontal screen the text is situated on the left. On a vertical screen the text is situated on top of the screen and below the text are the images. What I like to see is the same setup on a vertical screen as on a horizontal screen. Text on the left and on the right a smal image or images. Is this possible?
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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #303 on: March 31, 2014, 02:22:32 pm »
Thanks! But this did not work until I set flipx and flipy to 1. Now it works like a charm!

It must be you're using an old version of GroovyMAME. You shouldn't need that with the most recent one.

Regarding AdvMenu, well that might be possible, though I'm not very experienced with its configuration. AdvMenu+ supports creating custom layouts, that may be of help.
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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #304 on: April 15, 2014, 11:55:25 am »
Just curious if anything ever happened regarding AUR and the required packages to patch for GroovyMAME to work? My "Windows is just wrong on a cab" urges are getting stronger, and I'm thinking of going ahead with a GroovyMAME build + documentation. I've done this previously with Gentoo donkeys years ago, and Debian a bit more recently - though neither of those were complete solely because GroovyMAME didn't exist (AdvanceMAME and SDLMAME both flawed, Groovy fixes the issues).

Whilst I appreciate the work that's been put into the GroovyArcade Live CD I've tried it and I'd much prefer to make my own choices - I assume from https://code.google.com/p/groovyarcade/source/browse/?repo=diff that all that needs patching are the kernel, libSDL and the Xorg video driver?

A window server as a requirement grates a little too but I consider it a minor inconvenience since it both GroovyMAME/UME and Attract-Mode sit on top of it. Just my obsessive side coming out there.

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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #305 on: April 16, 2014, 01:50:15 pm »
Hi cools,

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I assume from https://code.google.com/p/groovyarcade/source/browse/?repo=diff that all that needs patching are the kernel, libSDL and the Xorg video driver?

Yes, as far as I know that's all what needs to be patched (kernel, SDL, Xorg driver). Of course if you're using more up to date packages you may need to adapt some of the patches.

Let us know about your progress.
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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #306 on: April 16, 2014, 04:46:45 pm »
Okay cool, thanks. We'll see how my time gets allocated over the coming period.

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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #307 on: April 20, 2014, 04:50:40 pm »
So what is the latest version of GroovyArcade?

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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #308 on: April 21, 2014, 04:51:33 am »
So what is the latest version of GroovyArcade?

The latest beta available is still this one: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B0NB2HYUHHktUFZXTWJfbHpzUlE&usp=sharing

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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #309 on: April 27, 2014, 03:27:22 am »
Will there be a 32 bit version? I sincerely hope so......I still use old pc's for some mame cabinets... :)

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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #310 on: April 30, 2014, 04:28:02 am »
anyone know where i can download the latest linux version of mame 0.153 64-bit for the live-cd?  i tried to update using my cabinet, but it only has 0.152 as the latest builds...
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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #311 on: April 30, 2014, 05:01:34 am »
Hi MonkeyJug,

The new storage site in google drive doesn't allow direct links that's why we the update feature in GA doesn't work anymore. Here are the files:
https://drive.google.com/?authuser=0#folders/0B5iMjDor3P__bXltSmE1QTZSNk0

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 - Attach resulting romname.txt file to your post, instead of pasting it.

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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #312 on: April 30, 2014, 05:40:21 am »
great stuff as usual, Calamity - many thanks...

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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #313 on: May 01, 2014, 05:58:03 am »
just noticed - there is a beta dated 24th April 2014 - did we miss anything?  There is nothing in the forums about it...

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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #314 on: May 01, 2014, 06:00:27 am »
Usually betas aren't announced on forum...but I could be wrong.
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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #315 on: May 01, 2014, 06:03:33 am »
ok - cool.  was a nice surprise though... :o)

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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #316 on: May 01, 2014, 06:12:44 pm »
Hi MonkeyJug,

The new storage site in google drive doesn't allow direct links that's why we the update feature in GA doesn't work anymore. Here are the files:
https://drive.google.com/?authuser=0#folders/0B5iMjDor3P__bXltSmE1QTZSNk0

It should work, wget works with the google drive direct link option.
Example of the direct link option here: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=135823.0
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Download GroovyMAME/GroovyUME

         GroovyMAME download site

https://googledrive.com/host/0B5iMjDor3P__bXltSmE1QTZSNk0/
https://googledrive.com/host/0B5iMjDor3P__aEFpcVNkVW5jbEE/v0.153_015a/

https://googledrive.com/host/0B5iMjDor3P__NTRMamY2Q0xjSFk/
https://googledrive.com/host/0B5iMjDor3P__aEFpcVNkVW5jbEE/v0.153_015b/


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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #317 on: May 02, 2014, 05:03:57 am »
It should work, wget works with the google drive direct link option.

Maybe I'm missing something, but as far as I can see you can't create a direct link to a file, so you can download it without using a browser. This wasn't the case with the old site: https://code.google.com/p/groovyarcade/downloads/list
Important note: posts reporting GM issues without a log will be IGNORED.
Steps to create a log:
 - From command line, run: groovymame.exe -v romname >romname.txt
 - Attach resulting romname.txt file to your post, instead of pasting it.

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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #318 on: May 02, 2014, 06:29:58 am »
It should work, wget works with the google drive direct link option.

Maybe I'm missing something, but as far as I can see you can't create a direct link to a file, so you can download it without using a browser. This wasn't the case with the old site: https://code.google.com/p/groovyarcade/downloads/list

Isn't this what you mean?
https://googledrive.com/host/0B5iMjDor3P__NTRMamY2Q0xjSFk/0153_groovymame_015b.diff
Doesn't this just save the file if you click on it?
https://googledrive.com/host/0B5iMjDor3P__aEFpcVNkVW5jbEE/v0.153_015b/0153_groovymame_015b.diff

When I use wget:
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$ wget https://googledrive.com/host/0B5iMjDor3P__NTRMamY2Q0xjSFk/0153_groovymame_015b.diff
--2014-05-02 20:35:07--  https://googledrive.com/host/0B5iMjDor3P__NTRMamY2Q0xjSFk/0153_groovymame_015b.diff
Resolving googledrive.com (googledrive.com)... 74.125.237.138, 74.125.237.139, 74.125.237.140, ...
Connecting to googledrive.com (googledrive.com)|74.125.237.138|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 213439 (208K) [text/x-diff]
Saving to: ‘0153_groovymame_015b.diff’

100%[============================================================================================================================================>] 213,439      386KB/s   in 0.5s   

2014-05-02 20:35:08 (386 KB/s) - ‘0153_groovymame_015b.diff’ saved [213439/213439]
or
Code: [Select]
$ wget https://googledrive.com/host/0B5iMjDor3P__aEFpcVNkVW5jbEE/v0.153_015b/0153_groovymame_015b.diff
--2014-05-02 20:33:08--  https://googledrive.com/host/0B5iMjDor3P__aEFpcVNkVW5jbEE/v0.153_015b/0153_groovymame_015b.diff
Resolving googledrive.com (googledrive.com)... 74.125.237.139, 74.125.237.140, 74.125.237.138, ...
Connecting to googledrive.com (googledrive.com)|74.125.237.139|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 213439 (208K) [text/x-diff]
Saving to: ‘0153_groovymame_015b.diff’

100%[============================================================================================================================================>] 213,439      414KB/s   in 0.5s   

2014-05-02 20:33:10 (414 KB/s) - ‘0153_groovymame_015b.diff’ saved [213439/213439]
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Re: GroovyArcade live-CD New Release 2013-02-24
« Reply #319 on: May 02, 2014, 06:34:48 am »
Isn't this what you mean?

Oh it does work!  :D
I don't know why I just assumed it wouldn't work.
Important note: posts reporting GM issues without a log will be IGNORED.
Steps to create a log:
 - From command line, run: groovymame.exe -v romname >romname.txt
 - Attach resulting romname.txt file to your post, instead of pasting it.

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