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Re: ami-man's advice on Rowe Ami jukeboxes
« Reply #520 on: August 30, 2017, 10:37:31 am »
Hello,

I have a 1973 AMI/Rowe deauville TI-1. Working just fine until about a month ago. Jukebox didnt play the songs I selected. I would select a song and it would just roll a full cycle and not play anything. Then I would put in a couple more selections and it would play again. Maybe not in the order I selected, but still play them and remember what I had selected previously.

I thought this could be a lubrication issue since it hadnt been oiled in at least 10-15 years. I carefully oiled(sewing machine oil or such and WD-40) a few spots in the machine following the owners manual. After this all noise coming from the machine was a lot smoother, BUT now it plays reeeaally slow. I found a video where a guy explains where you have to clean excess oil and so on, but its still slow. If I carefully adjust the Speed Shift Coil & Idler Wheel Assembly while playing, it will get more speed but wont maintain it. Do I have to replace the speed shift coil? Thank you guys in advance for any help I might get!

Hello saag1,

The only place you should lubricate on a Rowe Ami jukebox of this era is the pivot points of the idler wheel linkage, the turntable shaft and the top and bottom bearing of the turntable motor, the rest is best left dry unless you know what you are doing, the gripper bow should be totally clean & dry with high melting point grease in the trunnion casting sockets (pivot points).

I would remove the turntable and the idler wheel & linkage, strip down and wash in warm soapy water to remove any traces of oil, check the idler wheel for any damage such as dints (these are caused by the wheel being left in contact with the motor shaft for a long time of none use) replace it if this is the case.

WD40 should not come in contact with any jukebox.

I suggest that look at some of my other posts regarding cleaning the following open relays R1 & R5 on the keyboard assembly and S1 & S2 on the search unit, these open & closed contacts need to be cleaned with contact cleaning strips or a paper taper pulled between the contacts.

You will need to check the timing of the jukebox mechanism is correct, turn the mechanism to position A1 using the service switch, now check that the timing mark on the stop plate assembly is showing the 00 mark against the step in the search unit mounting bracket (check the adjustment in your manual).

Please let us know how you get on.

Regards
Alan

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Re: ami-man's advice on Rowe Ami jukeboxes
« Reply #521 on: August 30, 2017, 10:51:14 am »
thanks very much for your help guys Craig

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Re: ami-man's advice on Rowe Ami jukeboxes
« Reply #522 on: August 30, 2017, 11:45:56 am »
u beat me to it  ami-man
wd40 is to never be used
and yes your idler picked up oil
dry it out as was explained
+ the motor shaft and under the turntable where the idler makes contact (platter)

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Re: ami-man's advice on Rowe Ami jukeboxes
« Reply #523 on: August 30, 2017, 08:29:22 pm »
yeah, WD-40 is a solvent, not really a lubricant. about all it does is attract dirt when used as an oil

WD-40 is good for cleaning parts...then using a proper oil/lubrication

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Re: ami-man's advice on Rowe Ami jukeboxes
« Reply #524 on: August 31, 2017, 03:22:50 am »
Thanks guys for all the replys. Clearly an amateur mistake here to use WD40, I just blindly followed "some guy on the internet"s instructions.  :banghead:

I am not super confident I can take out the idler wheel and put it back together, but I'll give it a try. I will let you know in a couple of days. But thanks again so much  :)

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Re: ami-man's advice on Rowe Ami jukeboxes
« Reply #525 on: August 31, 2017, 10:39:06 am »
the idler and platter are super easy to remove and install
just watch out for washers under/over the idler (and there order) thick to thin

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Re: ami-man's advice on Rowe Ami jukeboxes
« Reply #526 on: September 05, 2017, 10:38:54 am »
the idler and platter are super easy to remove and install
just watch out for washers under/over the idler (and there order) thick to thin

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Hi ed12,

Yes both easy to remove.

There should not be any washers on the idler wheel, on the idler wheel linkage there can be washers on the speed shift coil shaft it it is indeed fitted with a speed shift.

The idler wheel and linkage is held in place by circlips.

I had an 1100 mechanism in the workshop last week where it did not have a turntable  (platter) on fitting a replacement it would not sit correctly on checking out the thrust and spacer bearing it was apparant that someone had altered spacer bearing, the result was that the turntable was about 3 mm too high. Spacer bearing replaced sorted out the issue.

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Alan
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Re: ami-man's advice on Rowe Ami jukeboxes
« Reply #527 on: September 08, 2017, 08:51:24 am »
Hello,

I am on holiday after today until 20th September.

Regards
Alan

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