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| jimmer:
--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on January 28, 2013, 01:18:32 pm ---Simple place your fingers on a normal flat keyboard in the home position of asdf and jkl; ,and you will see that not only are all your fingers comfortably lined up, but that they are Bent at an angle. --- End quote --- I don't agree with this bit. JKL is uncomfortable, HUIL is comfortable. --- Quote from: Xiaou2 on January 28, 2013, 01:18:32 pm ---A side note: Almost nothing Ive tried, plays Robotron well, except actual Wico Leaf Joysticks. And IMO, Robotron is far more gratifying game than Defender, or pretty much any game period. --- End quote --- I haven't even used them yet, but I'm already thinking about converting my Zippy sticks to leaf contacts. Looks like I'm getting sucked into this hobby. |
| jimmer:
So here's an update. The picture shows where I am so far. Buttons: I bought 3 different recommended buttons (Sanwa, Goldleaf, CLASSX trueleaf). And the result so far is that I wouldn't be unhappy with any of them for defender fire button. Whether my opinion will change when I get better at Joust we will see (the way my panel is I can use any of the 3 types for flapping so I can continue to evaluate them) On a cost & convenience basis for me in the UK, I would go with Goldleafs(concave) or Sanwa(convex) if starting again. For the reverse button I haven't tried the others, but I was convinced that the Sanwa is best for this because it's convex and a bit bigger than the others (25mm vs 23mm) Defender Up/Down (Ramblings): Here I am still pondering the possibilities. The short zippy has quite a bit of travel [engages at 7mm travel (top of ball) and disengages at 5mm. So 14mm total travel for each change of direction] and my initial impression was great dissapointment with the up/down control. Part of this was due to me having been playing on a keyboard where I can do very rapid up down whilst firing, which I just couldn't do with the stick. I also tried with joystick left/right being defender Up/Down because I can do much quicker left/right wiggles than up down wiggles, I didn't play long enough to get used to this and abandoned it because it would be too weird for other people. I tried using the sanwas for up down (same fingers as I'm used to) and this was nice, just like on my keyboard. To use this configuration I needed another reverse button, and it would have been a lot of work to add it to the right of the sanwas, I could have used Inviso (under my pinky) but that would spoil stargate, hence the quick installation of reverse into my footrest. :lol This got me to thinking about authenticity, and whether it was accceptable to use different controls to the originals. I'm sure I could get better scores using buttons and feet (with a bit of practice). But in this thread I'll stick to the Multi-Williams (plus) panel idea and use a conventional control scheme. So today I played a bit more with the joystick and I'm starting to get a bit better with it. But I know it can be better so I'll be looking to buy another or modify this one. Left/Right eg Galaxian I found the zippy to be really bad for this compared to the Left/Right buttons. So a similar situation to up/down really. 4-way Pengo This felt OK. But maybe that's because I haven't played it (on keyboard) for 30 years. Next up Robotron: Lets hope I find the longer zippys OK for this, not having played the game before I might have to just trust 1500points opinion that zippys are OK. |
| BadMouth:
Please put down the crack pipe and stop angling your sticks. |
| jimmer:
--- Quote from: BadMouth on February 05, 2013, 11:36:54 am ---Please put down the crack pipe and stop angling your sticks. --- End quote --- That's a good spot :applaud: I wasn't going to mention it. edit: well maybe not that good, I was looking at the shrunk picture :banghead: |
| RandyT:
--- Quote from: jimmer on February 05, 2013, 07:59:49 am ---I bought 3 different recommended buttons (Sanwa, Goldleaf, CLASSX trueleaf). And the result so far is that I wouldn't be unhappy with any of them for defender fire button. Whether my opinion will change when I get better at Joust we will see (the way my panel is I can use any of the 3 types for flapping so I can continue to evaluate them) --- End quote --- I expect it will. For Defender and Joust, a real leaf switch, adjusted to a "hair trigger" will give you much better control with those games. This is especially true for Defender, where you need to lay down a wall of fire. The only reasonable way to do this is to hold the button down to the point where it just fires, and "vibrate" it. Try it and you'll see what I am talking about ;). --- Quote ---Defender Up/Down (Ramblings): Here I am still pondering the possibilities. The short zippy has quite a bit of travel [engages at 7mm travel (top of ball) and disengages at 5mm. So 14mm total travel for each change of direction] and my initial impression was great dissapointment with the up/down control. Part of this was due to me having been playing on a keyboard where I can do very rapid up down whilst firing, which I just couldn't do with the stick. I also tried with joystick left/right being defender Up/Down because I can do much quicker left/right wiggles than up down wiggles, I didn't play long enough to get used to this and abandoned it because it would be too weird for other people. ... Left/Right eg Galaxian I found the zippy to be really bad for this compared to the Left/Right buttons. So a similar situation to up/down really. --- End quote --- Take the bottom plate off the Zippyy stick and adjust the levers on the switches. They can be tweaked such that even a small movement of the stick actuates the switch. I just did this recently for someone who ordered one for two-way operation, and it works very well. |
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