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A question for you IT and such folks who are business learned....

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Howard_Casto:
Well that's true.  I guess if you look at it that way ads have made the internet a lot worse off.  With straight html it's a lot easier to have a browser bypass video embedded ads, popup's ect so a lot of commerical sites hang on to the old scripting/plugin way of doing things. 

I know the escapist makes you pay a subscription to get access to their html5 site, which is dumb, but it certainly is a way to not worry about the lack of ads hurting your revenue stream. 

Youtube is actually pretty good about support.  They have an android plugin a, IOS plugin and even a plugin for each of the consoles.  Basically the "mobile" browsers simply launch a youtube app whenever you click on a video in the browser.  It sucks for embedded video, but works pretty well anyway. 

Adobe and Sun are the two that cause all the issues.  They seem to be off in their own little worlds, refusing to release the source for their plugins and only supporting whatever random device they feel like.  I understand that they are trying to take advantage of the fact that their plugin's are so popular by charging browser developers for support, but in this climate they are just going to get swept away if they don't add support for all the major mobile platforms.

Gray_Area:
Mmmm. Okay.

So....without treading near PnRnN territory.....or ridiculous discussion on utopia......let's say that society was self-sufficient. Would only the obvious thing happen - ads would completely disappear?

ark_ader:
I think ads are just opportunities.

wp34:
I don't see ads ever going away.  It costs $10 to see a movie and there are still product placements everywhere.  I actually wished ads worked better on the Internet.  I have several newspapers I read on-line that are moving to a subscription model because the ads are not bringing in enough revenue.

lilshawn:
e had a bit of a discussion regarding ads in the console area with regards to the Xbox update to the dashboard that basically tuned it into a giant ad delivery system.

You paid for the system, You pay for the games, you pay for the on-line aspect of the system, yet, you continue to be bombarded with ads with nothing in return for them doing so...and M$ makes a buck. (like they need it)

ads aren't going to go away... it makes companies too much money.

I would imagine if there where no ads, companies would seek other areas to make additional money. (getting back to your original question) I believe companies would probably pad their income with a pay per use system. Many companies that don't advertise or anything like that have software models where you have to purchase the use of their software and once it's "used up" you must purchase more uses. or it's good for X amont of time then expires, and you have to purchase another slot of time. (think Antivirus but all software would operate like that.)

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