Arcade Collecting > Pinball
To repair or recreate, that is the question of the Galaxy.
MTPPC:
Or I could have spent less than $700 and had a working machine shipped to my door. I don't think you understand the value of a simulator. Endprodukt, have you ever even played on a full-size sim? You seem to display some real sour grapes. Maybe your simulator is just that much better than mine. Maybe you're just jealous.
All I can really say is this thing is incredible. The skills learned are directly applicable to RW pinball. There is no other way to learn the rulesets and challenges of multiple hard-to-find tables. When is the last time you played BBB, TAF, MM and TZ in the same session? There's probably not 5 places in the nation that have these 4 machines for public operation. And I've got a hundred more than this right in my gameroom. Pinball simulation is like MAME. While it is not "the real thing", it is a great substitute for those who are open to it. I've got public access to only two pinball machines within a hundred miles. I can't afford to be a purist and the last thing I want is a big boat anchor hogging my square feet while I try to fix it for several years. That's fine if it's your thing, but it's not mine. Are you a member of BOP's billionaire club? Have you defeated the King of Payne? I have.
TopJimmyCooks:
Gonna throw in to support MTPPC here, even though I like to restore pins. Not a big deal to conk this one - a $600 machine on a good day, not in demand at all. Sell the populated PF, board set and backglass to someone and make them very happy. If people are hunting game specific parts for many years to redo these you'll be doing the hobby a favor.
I like to save machines, and I've got a solar fire with a too-rough pf that's going to get redone, and a black knight with TERMITEs in the cab, going to get a rebuilt cab. Are these machines contributing anything to the pinball world? No, they're basically dead. $200 each to get them playing and maybe more $ to restore than they're worth. Would I use the cab to make a VP if I wanted to? sure. Be realistic folks, that game is not valuable, rare, unique in some way or in demand and probably better off parted out anyway.
ChadTower:
I disagree on the demand. Old Stern pins are very much in demand. I know guys here that collect strictly Stern games. I have a Dragonfist I have put 50 hours into and a third of its market value in light sockets alone.
That game is rare. All of the old Sterns are rare now. Forget the production numbers. Most of those games have been long since dumpstered.
Note that I haven't been one of the ones who have told him it was wrong to VP that thing. I do think that but I haven't said it because it's his right to do so. All VP needs is a cabinet. Used pin legs, rails, and coin doors are easy to get. That's all that gets reused in a VP partout.
People are always going to comment negatively on parting out a game in good shape for a MAME/VP. Been happening in vids for ten years and it happens on pins now.
BTW, the value in a simulator is that it renews and spreads out interest in real pinball. It undermines the simulator's value to decrease the amount of existing pinball in order to express interest in pinball.
MTPPC:
--- Quote from: ChadTower on March 15, 2013, 01:36:27 pm ---All VP needs is a cabinet. Used pin legs, rails, and coin doors are easy to get.
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Then how come it's cheaper to buy a broke down pin than to buy those parts you say are so easy to get? How come virtuapin sells a flatpack of wood for $250 or a trimmed standard body for $900?
http://virtuapin.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=7
Endprodukt:
I'm out. You don't get it and I have neither the time nor the will to explain it to you . People in this very thread would give you all the parts of a cabinet you need to built your machine. You rather destroy a piece of art because of impatience. I played vp's before, just to let you know. I do get their value in generell, not in this case though. This is my honest opinion.
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