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i5-2500K-based PC, m350 Universal Case! It works!
RyoriNoTetsujin:
--- Quote from: Jumpman64 on December 19, 2012, 10:14:24 am ---Thanks for the info... what is the ballpark cost on this setup?
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Buying brand new? You'd have to sub in a different mobo (like the H77M-ITX, or similar) but, for everything I listed, quick math says about $800.
* -$100 if you already have an OS (or work with Linux)
* You could easily leave out the 2TB drive part of the setup and/or swap in a larger SSD or laptop HDD. (I've been playing with the idea of romsets on MicroSD cards...)
* If you wanted to drop another $100 or so, and you have no desire to play NFL Blitz or the other resource hogs, you could easily buy a less powerful CPU and still have 98% of mame. Even the latest Celerons can likely handle that.
The main purpose of this was to show that the Noctua heatsink can actually handle the 2500k (a 95w TDP processor - some reviews have even overclocked this same CPU/heatsink combo!) while also fitting in the m350 case.
Bender:
This is pretty much what I'm looking for with maybe a few tweaks
I've never built a PC before, so any help is very much appreciated
If it's inside a cab, is there a reason for the case?
I know this sounds dumb but where does the heat sink attach?
why does the HDD now have separate power?
and if no case could you recommend a small light Power supply
any pics of the inside of your setup?
The MB you used is no longer available how's this one look
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157311
any avantage to an i7 not that much more expensive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116502
RyoriNoTetsujin:
--- Quote from: Bender on January 08, 2013, 11:08:07 am ---If it's inside a cab, is there a reason for the case?
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Portability, essentially. I can take the whole PC out and take it over to my buddy's place, or whenever I travel. Took it home with me to my parent's house over the holidays - they had a spare monitor, so I didn't miss a beat. I have a couple of USB SNES pads that are a nice substitute for when I'm not at the cabinet.
--- Quote from: Bender on January 08, 2013, 11:08:07 am ---I know this sounds dumb but where does the heat sink attach?
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It's for the CPU, in this case the i5-2500K. It's designed to fit any LGA 1155 motherboard (basically any of your Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge Intel Core processors.) Speaking of which, that 3770 you're looking at is top of the line, but it you're really trying to go big guns, I think you should try to find the 3770T, if you can (and can afford it!) The lower TDP rating on the T version generally means it generates less heat, and therefore is easier to keep cool and happy. Mini-ITX, especially in a very small case such as this, can be tricky to keep within proper thermal range. That's the only big advantage the 3770T has over the 2500K (aside from raw power) since the 2500K already runs everything playable that Mame can throw at it.
--- Quote from: Bender on January 08, 2013, 11:08:07 am ---why does the HDD now have separate power?
and if no case could you recommend a small light Power supply
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Remember, there are 2 hard drives: one internal (the SSD that has the OS) and one external (my 2TB backup drive). The one in the external enclosure runs on its own power supply (thereby removing that small burden from the motherboard's power supply) and is, technically, completely optional in my setup. (I'm running the roms off a microSD card in an adapter inside the m350 case!)
The SSD is powered by the motherboard, which has the 150w picoPSU attached. I imagine that same picoPSU could run a 3770 too in this kind of setup, but I'd want to test it with a normal PSU first. You're certainly not going to be able to power a discreet graphics card in a full setup like this with a picoPSU; the highest they go is 160 watts, I believe. You're definitely limited to the GPU of whichever CPU you buy. Not a terrible limitation if you're only playing MAME and console emulators.
--- Quote from: Bender on January 08, 2013, 11:08:07 am ---any pics of the inside of your setup?
The MB you used is no longer available how's this one look
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157311
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I'll take it out and take a few more detailed pics once I'm done with this post, and put them up later.
As for the mobo, it's basically the updated version of the one I am currently using. Same board layout, same back panel, but the chipset allows for Sandy Bridge AND Ivy Bridge CPUs (like your 3770 and 3770T.) Mine only does Sandy Bridge.
Bender:
Thanks so much for the quick response!
so much helpful info. I'm starting to feel a bit more confident that I'll be able to put it all together
2 more questions and they're kinda related
I will only be running mame and a couple other emu's
but I might want to do HLSL lcd filter in mame and I have no clue if the onboard video processor Intel HD4000 I believe
can handle that, any ideas?
and could you help me find a picoPSU, or if i need a graphics card for the HLSL, a PSU that will be able to power that too
Thanks again
RyoriNoTetsujin:
The HD3000 in my 2500K handles HLSL just fine. I can run NFL Blitz in Mame .145 with HLSL on. The HD4000 should have NO problem. Hell, even the Ivy Bridge HD2500 on-board is an incremental improvement over Sandy's HD3000 according to benchmarks around the net.
I've noticed certain games freak out when HLSL is turned on (Galaga, Strider 2, OpWolf, possibly others) but I think that's a MAME issue, not the gpu.
picoPSU kits are on mini-box.com (they manufacture the part themselves.)
I've included the pics I promised. Let me know if they need any explanation. I'm curious to see what you do with this! :cheers:
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