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TopJimmyCooks:

Pogo pins! Oh wait - with minimum orders and shipping they're more expensive than another encoder!  Dang. 

Just want to see someone else break the ice before I buy some for switchcade. 

spystyle:


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--- Quote from: spystyle on December 20, 2012, 01:06:35 pm ---Soldering is incredibly easy - if anyone wants a simple soldering tutorial with pics, let me know.

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I'd love to see one if you are willing to do it. Thanks!

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I'll do one in picture book style :)

edit : OK here it is :

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,129317.msg1322370.html

Xiaou2:


--- Quote ---True, game cartridges use PCB edge connectors because they allow so many pins, but the controller connectors are actually much more similar to d-subs, especially the Genesis/Megadrive and Atari.
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 The connectors on the Sega Master, Genesis, and Atari, is not easy to plug in... nor take out.   Its designed this way, so that your controller will not accidentally fall out while your playing.   Its the same with parallel cables.

 As for why they used them, no.. Im sorry, but its not merely because of the number of pins.   A dsub connector is more durable, because of its thicker shape.  Any downward pressure on an edge connector could cause the entire board to snap.  It would also take up a lot more space on a console, to use large pin edge connectors.   Cost was a main factor in why those three (and more) systems used that style of connector.  No need to make a new expensive mold.  And differing ports were probably first born due to style and better functionality.   Snes controllers are much smoother and easier to pop in and out.  They also match the color and style of the system.

 
 Finally, Id LOVE to see you pull off a complete example of a sliding click and lock control panel with a dsub connection.  The only way you will make it work reliably and consistently, is if you are a machinist, and or use precision CNC style rails.  As any bit of play in the x and y, will yield a problem.    An edge connector is much more forgiving in this respect.   

rCadeGaming:


--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on December 24, 2012, 11:44:04 am ---The connectors on the Sega Master, Genesis, and Atari, is not easy to plug in... nor take out.   Its designed this way, so that your controller will not accidentally fall out while your playing.   Its the same with parallel cables.
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They're a little rougher to plug and unplug partly because it's a tight plastic on plastic fit.  It's not so bad with normal metal shelled d-subs, but they don't pop off either.


--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on December 24, 2012, 11:44:04 am ---As for why they used them, no.. Im sorry, but its not merely because of the number of pins.  A dsub connector is more durable, because of its thicker shape.  Any downward pressure on an edge connector could cause the entire board to snap.  It would also take up a lot more space on a console, to use large pin edge connectors.   Cost was a main factor in why those three (and more) systems used that style of connector.  No need to make a new expensive mold.
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I never said that the number of pins was the only reason, but thanks for the good arguments for d-subs here.


--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on December 24, 2012, 11:44:04 am ---And differing ports were probably first born due to style and better functionality.   Snes controllers are much smoother and easier to pop in and out.  They also match the color and style of the system.
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Sure, functional and aesthetic improvements were certainly part of it, but don't think that having a proprietary connector that had to be licensed to make accessories had nothing to do with it.
 

--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on December 24, 2012, 11:44:04 am ---Finally, Id LOVE to see you pull off a complete example of a sliding click and lock control panel with a dsub connection.  The only way you will make it work reliably and consistently, is if you are a machinist, and or use precision CNC style rails.  As any bit of play in the x and y, will yield a problem.    An edge connector is much more forgiving in this respect.
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I'm not arguing that an edge connector might be a little easier, but you're way overexaggerating the difficulty of using a d-sub.

Nephasth:

Don't mind X2. The last time this conversation came up he had "the perfect solution", was requested pics, and never delivered. He's good at 2 things: napkin engineering, and blowing smoke. Not necessarily in that order either…

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