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| rCadeGaming:
Uuuugh... you're coming out swinging and calling me a fanboy. I didn't even say what my favorite sticks and buttons were, I just said to consider everything. --- Quote from: paigeoliver on December 13, 2012, 09:58:51 pm ---the Asian stuff is nothing special, the sticks are pretty precise but they feel SO CHEAP. --- End quote --- The build quality of a Sanwa is arguably the highest. Happ are pretty poor since they decided to outsource production to China. If you want an American style stick, you should at least get an iL Eurojoystick. Your perception of Japanese sticks feeling "cheap" is most likely because of the low spring tension. This is easily fixed with a heavier spring, if that's your preference. You could make as heavy as a Happ if you wanted to, although I can't grasp why anyone would think the stick needs to have that much resistance. It is possible to play with a little finesse, flicking the stick around with your fingers and wrist. You don't have to yank on it with your whole arm you know. --- Quote from: paigeoliver on December 13, 2012, 09:58:51 pm ---The curved button layouts have little to do with playability --- End quote --- Sorry but this is just plain wrong. Of course it has to do with playability. Print out the Astro City layout from Slagcoin and lay your hand over it. It's shaped that way because that's the natural line your fingers make. Playing is more natural when the layout conforms to your hand. It shouldn't have to be the other way around. --- Quote from: paigeoliver on December 13, 2012, 09:58:51 pm ---Not trying to hate on Asian controls, I use them on my imported machines, but they just aren't that special. Having used at least 100 different models I would have to say the BEST joystick I ever used is the Happ P360 with the bat stick replaced with a 4" Wico balltop handle. Followed by leaf switch Wico, leaf switch Midway and microswitch wico with grommet. --- End quote --- Paige, I think your preferences reflect that you play a lot of the older classic games a lot. Not that there's anything wrong with that; I love some Ms. Pac-Man. For me, I play mostly stuff from the 90's to current, and a JLF suits me better. Playing 2d fighters or shmups on a serious level with American hardware is kind of laughable. It will be up to the OP and what era/genres he's focusing on. |
| paigeoliver:
I don't need to print the Astro City layout, my Exceleena has basically the same layout. I didn't really mean fanboy as an insult. You could say the same to me about American style balltop sticks, using cheap PCs and mame version .55. |
| brad808:
The more games I play the more I realize buttons don't really matter that much to me. Layout or manufacture. I don't really feel I've ever lost a game because I couldn't find it or it didn't feel right. I find joystick choice to have a much larger impact on how much I enjoy a game. I definitely feel I've lost a bunch of games based on what joystick I was using at the time. Sent from my Galaxy Nexus |
| rCadeGaming:
I would *kind of* argue the button thing. There are pretty crappy buttons out there. The Sanwa's I have now definitely give you an edge over the crappy X-arcade buttons I started with a few years ago; but you can get other perfectly fine American style buttons of course. I don't think I could say that my Sanwa's are measurably better than iL competition buttons. It's preference at that point. Agreed though, the stick is MUCH more important. I'd say sticks are most important, followed by layout, then buttons. |
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