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Author Topic: Restore: Paperboy: 'Exclusive!' - Restore with enhanced side art  (Read 84438 times)

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Re: Resto-Mod - Paperboy: 'Exclusive!' - Pimp My Paperboy!!
« Reply #80 on: February 07, 2013, 11:47:23 am »
Driving on the highways here in California you get to see some pretty amazing cars (my other passion) everything from million dollar exotics to pristine vintage classics. The temperate climate means they hold up well over the years and the huge car culture means that many people have their 'Little Deuce Coupe' or whatever they like to drive. As a result there are a lot of car shows and you often see entire lines of amazing hot-rods and classics on the highway going to or from one of these shows.

I've seen a few nicely modded Model-T's, '66 SS Camaros, Soft-tail Deluxe Harleys and Split -window VW Buses rolling around lately while thinking about this build and I started to think about bringing some of those design ideas and elements to the cab. This project was always meant to be a resto-mod, but I thought why not take it up a notch or two and treat this classic cab like a classic car or bike. So that being said I've decided to push the design ideas a little further forward than usual and take some styling inspiration from the hot-rod/biking community - after all, Paperboy always loved his ride  ;D

So here's the updated list of ideas at this point, no artwork yet, hopefully I'll find some time one evening to mock it up.

Planned Customizations
Controller overlay - Chrome plated panel with engraved reproduction of original instructions.
CPO - Will use newly illustrated papers and Paperboy art to create an enhanced version of the original.
Handlebars - Chrome plated bars, chrome engraved grips with rubber inlays.
Bezel - Completely new back-lit bezel with characters from the game and the header 'Exclusive!'
Marquee - No art changes planned at this point, chrome plated marquee retainers.
Side art - Full vinyl over laminated panels with complete art redraw from scratch with enhanced detailing.
T-Molding - 'Paperboy' blue and black
Kick panels - Black Laminate
Coin Doors - Chrome Plated
Footrests - Bright diamond plate.
Rear access panel Reversed 'California Style' rear door/circuit board, recess mounted with lighting and acrylic viewing panel
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Re: Resto-Mod - Paperboy: 'Exclusive!' - Pimp My Paperboy!!
« Reply #81 on: February 07, 2013, 12:13:44 pm »
How do you plan to two-tone the T-molding?
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« Reply #82 on: February 07, 2013, 12:15:18 pm »
How do you plan to two-tone the T-molding?

It's not two tone as such, it's just blue at the top of the cab to follow the artwork and then goes to black, so it will be a simple splice at the meeting point.
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Re: Resto-Mod - Paperboy: 'Exclusive!' - Pimp My Paperboy!!
« Reply #83 on: February 07, 2013, 12:17:38 pm »
No chrome t-molding? :dunno

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« Reply #84 on: February 07, 2013, 12:22:56 pm »
No chrome t-molding? :dunno

Lol no, if it's metal it's chrome but no pho-chrome...phome...
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« Reply #85 on: February 07, 2013, 12:24:24 pm »
How do you plan to two-tone the T-molding?

It's not two tone as such, it's just blue at the top of the cab to follow the artwork and then goes to black, so it will be a simple splice at the meeting point.

I see.  :cheers:
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Re: Re: Resto - Paperboy: 'Exclusive!' - Let's get this bike rolling
« Reply #86 on: February 07, 2013, 02:47:33 pm »
Looks like you'll need an Atari bucket like so:


Picked up one of these over at KLOV, it's on it's way  :applaud:
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« Reply #87 on: February 07, 2013, 02:55:29 pm »
Also ordered a Cap Kit for the monitor. Hopefully that will get it going again as there are no flybacks available any more for these original AGM-20M Med-Res monitors. It would be a shame to have to replace it as it is an original Atari part and apparently they look fantastic when working. I'm hoping that the light use in the past and the fact that there is Zero burn on the tube means this is more a case of a bad connection or cap somewhere rather than death from old age and wear.
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« Reply #88 on: February 07, 2013, 03:10:52 pm »
Yeah, those KLOV guys seem to have everything. ;D

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« Reply #89 on: February 07, 2013, 03:12:54 pm »
Yeah, those KLOV guys seem to have everything. ;D

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« Reply #90 on: February 07, 2013, 03:27:42 pm »
Between KLOV and the Boneyard, it's pretty easy to find the stuff you need. I've found a replacement coin reject button and a new hinge for the back of Moon Patrol. I also found a replacement 15" vector monitor for an Asteroids cocktail. It takes some digging, but you can find a lot of stuff out there.
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« Reply #91 on: February 07, 2013, 03:42:39 pm »
Does this thing play Harley Davidson & L.A. Riders yet?

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« Reply #92 on: February 07, 2013, 03:47:00 pm »
Does this thing play Harley Davidson & L.A. Riders yet?

LOL, nope this is staying dedicated PB
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« Reply #93 on: February 07, 2013, 04:03:23 pm »
Question/suggestions on laminating that column.

I plan to basically laminate the entire exterior of this cab and know that it's complicated shape is going to give me a few headaches. I'm pretty confident working with the laminate now I've had a few projects using it, but it's the interior edges that are going to prove difficult as the cab is already built.

In my head it seems to make sense to make a template of the sides of the coin column and the inside areas of the sides that run along the bezel/glass edge. Then use the template to pre-cut the laminate to shape and then contact bond it in place. Because of some of those tight enclosed angles I'm not sure there would be any other reliable way to do it properly?

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« Reply #94 on: February 07, 2013, 04:17:27 pm »
Rustoleum Painter's Touch UltraCover.  I recently had a family member visit and they asked me how long it took me to laminate the cab.  It's painted...

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100208855/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=painters+touch&storeId=10051#.URQZaGeMik0

Over some decently prepared primer, using a nice 1/4" nap roller, you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference...

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« Reply #95 on: February 07, 2013, 04:23:34 pm »
Rustoleum Painter's Touch UltraCover.  I recently had a family member visit and they asked me how long it took me to laminate the cab.  It's painted...

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100208855/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=painters+touch&storeId=10051#.URQZaGeMik0

Over some decently prepared primer, using a nice 1/4" nap roller, you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference...

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Thanks for the suggestion, it might be a nice fallback, but I REALLLLLY want to laminate this
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« Reply #96 on: February 07, 2013, 04:29:18 pm »
What size T-molding will you have to use, then, if you laminate both sides?
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« Reply #97 on: February 07, 2013, 04:33:49 pm »
probably 12/1/2/4/16ths (I ---smurfing--- hate American measurements.... I mean Imperial??? REALLY???? )
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« Reply #98 on: February 07, 2013, 04:39:15 pm »
It's yer accent.  Makes the measuring more difficult.  :applaud:

We're too smart for metric here.  The more difficult the better!

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« Reply #99 on: February 07, 2013, 04:41:12 pm »
It's yer accent.  Makes the measuring more difficult.  :applaud:
We're too smart for metric here.  The more difficult the better!

Ha ha ha, makes me want to go to the Seven Eleven for a quart of nickels and 12 feet of ounces. WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #100 on: February 07, 2013, 04:56:53 pm »
It's yer accent.  Makes the measuring more difficult.  :applaud:
We're too smart for metric here.  The more difficult the better!

Ha ha ha, makes me want to go to the Seven Eleven for a quart of nickels and 12 feet of ounces. WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm quite chuffed by that remark!  :laugh2:
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« Reply #101 on: February 07, 2013, 05:03:33 pm »
On another note I just noticed the Wreck it Ralph DVD popped up on the Bay of Pirates, just sayin'  ::)
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« Reply #102 on: February 07, 2013, 09:24:56 pm »
Here's the problem child




Interesting to find even earlier serial numbers on the chassis #26




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Is the wire burnt off that power resistor in the second pic? Could this be the problem??

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« Reply #103 on: February 07, 2013, 10:03:53 pm »
Well spotted sir. Funny I only ever looked at the board from above where you can't see that, you have to get all in there. Sure enough the wire is off and the solder is dry. I'll check it out

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« Reply #104 on: February 07, 2013, 10:48:49 pm »
It looks like that wire is going to the second power resistor. Could it be these were paralleled, and one opened, putting higher current on the circuit? Just guessing, you may want to post the pic over in the monitor forum, those guys are experts.
If that did happen, and more current was put on the circuit, it could have taken out something else. Those transistors(?) in the back ground with the gold heat sinks: Do they look like they got hot? Or is that just dirt on them?

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« Reply #105 on: February 08, 2013, 12:46:13 am »
I don't think they are scorched from excessive heat just discolored over time.

I resoldered that loose power resister wire and fired up the monitor. This time it showed some life, no picture but a noise coming from the flyback, sounds pretty sickly...



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« Reply #106 on: February 08, 2013, 12:57:03 am »
A little Frankenstein testing action


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« Reply #107 on: February 08, 2013, 07:13:44 am »
I resoldered that loose power resister wire and fired up the monitor. This time it showed some life, no picture but a noise coming from the flyback, sounds pretty sickly...

Turn the lights off in the room and see if you can see it arcing.

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« Reply #108 on: February 08, 2013, 07:45:47 am »
I don't think they are scorched from excessive heat just discolored over time.


Hmmmm... I have that same problem with my hair.

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« Reply #109 on: February 08, 2013, 08:38:46 am »
I don't think they are scorched from excessive heat just discolored over time.


Hmmmm... I have that same problem with my hair.

Lol


I resoldered that loose power resister wire and fired up the monitor. This time it showed some life, no picture but a noise coming from the flyback, sounds pretty sickly...

Turn the lights off in the room and see if you can see it arcing.

Yep tried that didn't see anything at either end of the line
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« Reply #110 on: February 08, 2013, 10:01:12 am »
Got organized on the bench to work on the guts if this


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« Reply #111 on: February 08, 2013, 10:37:31 am »
Well I found out why those wires had come off that power resister..


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« Reply #112 on: February 08, 2013, 10:44:49 am »
 Relax, all right? My old man is a television repairman, he's got this ultimate set of tools. I can fix it.

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« Reply #113 on: February 08, 2013, 11:28:24 am »
Relax, all right? My old man is a television repairman, he's got this ultimate set of tools. I can fix it.

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Eh?

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« Reply #114 on: February 08, 2013, 11:36:37 am »
If you grew up in the 80s and haven't seen this, you were NOT in the US.  I would suggest watching this movie ASAP


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083929/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

Defining movie of the 80s...hahahaha.

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« Reply #115 on: February 08, 2013, 11:51:27 am »
Lol, ok yeah I have a lot of 'murican friends that rave about that movie, but being a Brit I don't really get a lot of the stuff as I never went to school or college here, plus I'm not a big fan of fart jokes or slapstick
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« Reply #116 on: February 08, 2013, 12:19:24 pm »
Yeah, we're a sophisticated bunch over here in the US.  Some bong hit jokes and Phoebe Cates topless is high art!

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« Reply #117 on: February 08, 2013, 02:11:52 pm »
Decided to send the monitor boards off to Chad at ArcadeCup, spoke to him on the phone this morning and he said he would try and get it going or at least find something I can drive this original tube with. The deeper I delve into this the more I am second-guessing my plans to resto-mod this cab and try and do a full authentic restore, it's just too complete and nice to start messing with it too much. Even if I do an original grade restore, I am still very tempted to use the new side art though as the original art was just crap.

With that in mind I've decided to powder coat the black metal pieces with matt black and stay away from the chrome. I've always wanted to do my own powder coating and you can get a cheap gun from Harbor Freight for $69 so I'm going to grab one of those and an old toaster oven and start experimenting on some old metal bits and pieces.
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« Reply #118 on: February 08, 2013, 02:35:12 pm »
Ugggghhhhhhh I can see what's going to happen here, I'm going to end up with two Paperboy machines lol, one faithful restore and one pimped to the diddlies.
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« Reply #119 on: February 08, 2013, 07:42:58 pm »
Griff, I think your side art will be a splendid upgrade. I think it'll look better without chrome. Kudos on your choice.
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