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Changing side art on Pinball 2000: Do I need to paint!??!
jasonbar:
Thanks, smartbomb84.
--- Quote from: smartbomb2084 on March 11, 2013, 08:13:44 am ---This is really turning out nice....Hard work pays off ...
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Looking at it up close, I see all the defects: little bits of something that got under the vinyl & make a little teeny peek, imperfect trimming of auto vinyl along cabinet edges, a shallow scratch here & there, some original small flaws/tears in the SWEPI art (which is why I got the 5-piece set for $70 instead of $270).
--- Quote from: smartbomb2084 on March 11, 2013, 08:13:44 am ---Curious as to how many man hours you have into this... Have you been keeping track?
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I haven't been keeping track, but let's say...
1h for front sticker
6h for 1 top sticker
5h for other top sticker
12h for both bottom stickers
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24h? That sounds too low. Probably 30h or so? Or, in short "too many" hours...
--- Quote from: smartbomb2084 on March 11, 2013, 08:13:44 am ---I've got an NOS decal set for my NO FEAR that I am just plain SCARED of putting on... not because of the hard work but because I have no confidence that I can do it well.
You are becoming a real pro at this... maybe I'll send the game to you and you can decal it for me.
What would you charge to do someone's game now that you have done it yourself?
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My brother has a Dracula w/ good but faded art. He found some alternate art on-line & asked me what I thought about him trying to change the art. I told him that I will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever do art on a machine again. Maybe a little piece like a normal head side or a coin door, and only if it's not this p2k nonsense that requires black & then the art...ugh, this was such a pain in the fanny. Never again! Ever!
Having said that, I'll answer your charge question as vendors do when they really don't want the job. I'll quote you something ridiculously high: $2,000. :]
Next time I do this, I pay somebody else to do it!
Good luck w/ your NF! :]
-Jason
macattack:
Love the vinyl idea. I build a lot of scratch built p2k cabs and have some original artwork I am going to apply on a couple of mine. I am certainly thinking of using the black vinyl rather than painting the black. The repro rfm ones now are full cabinet so less of an issue on those.
jasonbar:
Without getting on too far of a tangent how & why do you build a lot of p2k cabs? The auto vinyl is somewhat thin, not too thin to manage without crinkling & creasing, but thin enough to show any flaws in the surface underneath. Do you have lots of NOS "small" art in stock, vs. the new repro "big" art?
-Jason
smartbomb2084:
Thanks for being HONEST about how HARD it actually is to do this... 30 hours of physical... 130 hours of thinking...
I know deep down you are disappointed about the small imperfections but overall the initial impression has to be a FACTORY look to the casual obserever.
I am sure you learned a lot doing it... as did I.... and as well as everyone else lurking in the background who followed this thread.
THANKS for posting your progress... looking forward to see the final pic of the complete game...
macattack:
--- Quote from: jasonbar on March 11, 2013, 08:21:47 pm ---Without getting on too far of a tangent how & why do you build a lot of p2k cabs? The auto vinyl is somewhat thin, not too thin to manage without crinkling & creasing, but thin enough to show any flaws in the surface underneath. Do you have lots of NOS "small" art in stock, vs. the new repro "big" art?
-Jason
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If you follow any of the virtual pin stuff, I do a lot of p2k style builds for that community. I find that the reflection technique works really well for the Dmd element. Makes game play more interactive when you don't need to look up as much. I think right now I am the only person reproducing a close to replica cabinet as well as a conversion head to turn any cab into a p2k style. You can check out some of my threads on hyperspin forum, I think my tron build is also on here.
Your right if the vinyl is thin its not going to cover a lot unless you have a decent finish first. There are some thicker vinyls out there. I have a couple sets of ep1 I plan on using and 1set of the larger rfm, in reality most of end users apply full. Vinyl when they get their artwork created.
So as to not get off on a tangent in this great thread, pm me if you want any additional info.
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