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The Walking Dead - Season 3
lordnacho:
Well, I'm glad they are different. We know people die, but it doesn't happen how you expect it.
Also, there's a difference between not showing the death vs no one seeing it.
Howard_Casto:
--- Quote from: lordnacho1 on November 06, 2012, 01:04:37 pm ---Well, I'm glad they are different. We know people die, but it doesn't happen how you expect it.
Also, there's a difference between not showing the death vs no one seeing it.
--- End quote ---
Yeah but here's the thing..... with the exception of Hershel, they've already wasted their alloted deaths per season on the first couple of episodes. There's no tension now because they can't really kill anybody else that's important. They aren't brave enough to kill the primary cast when the series has become such a cash-cow, so Rick, Carl, Glen, Maggie, and Daryl are safe and to be honest, do you really give a crap about the rest? I mean yeah they let one of the minor cast members die early in season 2, like one from season 1 linger on a bit too long and swapped Dale for Hershel but who lives and who dies is essentially unchanged..... if that's the case then I'd rather them stay closer to the superior comic book plotlines.
In the comics, they have the good sense to do most of the deaths towards the end of an arc... you know, so people will actually read all the way through?
t3design:
Who lives and who dies is interesting at times and the slight differences between the graphic novel and the tv series have kept me guessing a little. The gore, too much or too little, is a necessary part of the story (that I like!). What I find fascinating and it's true about both the graphic novel and the series is the tension in the small parts of dialogue that are seemingly small things but in reality are the real issues. Case in point:
The short discussion between the group members about whether to let the two remaining prisoners stay or send them out. This is an very difficult thing to handle.
If you include them, you have to trust them at some level. You have to evaluate whether they add more than they take from the group. Do your chances go up or down?
If you send them out, are you sending them to die? What if they survive and you run across them later? What if they bring others back with them?
Is survival at ANY cost worth it. If to survive you loose your humanity, compassion and dignity, are you still human?
And in the middle of this very important, functionally life or death decision process, zombies attack!
That few minutes was worth the episode for me, yet it happens several times an episode.
P.S. I liked Lori. I think she was most like what a real mom who could survive would have been like. Sorry to see her go....
RandyT:
I'm enjoying it so far.
I can really appreciate some of the human dynamics being introduced in the third season. I think the mostly quiet and organized community, guarded and controlled by ruthless thugs is the most interesting. There are certainly parallels with current social norms being presented there. It raises the question of what freedoms, and perhaps morals, individuals are willing to sacrifice for the sake of safety and structure.
I think the one part I had the most difficulty with is the prisoners. While it may be a little naive on my part, I would have to believe that there would have been a "come to jesus" moment for them, after being locked in a room for as long as they were. It seems to me that being liberated, and understanding the situation they had suddenly become part of, would have had a more profound impact on their behaviors, likely tempering the aggression toward the group. It also seems unlikely that one of them would intentionally endanger everyone inside, including themselves, but I guess they weren't there for being reasonable.
Still, it's great TV and I don't miss an episode.
Howard_Casto:
Well those discussions WOULD be interesting, if they weren't so damn predictable.
You knew that they were going to eventually let the prisoners join the group eventually... probably after a conveniant chance to prove themselves and 5 minutes later... boom! There comes that chance!
And again there WOULD be a moral delimma, if those guys weren't prisoners. Yeah I know, they say that their offenses were minor but that sure looks like at least a medium security prison to me and you don't get in there for a little pot. Don't get me wrong, I don't support the death penalty, but things are a bit different when there aren't the facilities in place to give criminals proper punishment. Making them leave wouldn't have been killing them, it would have been the right call... but they are staying true to the worst parts of the comics unfortunately, including Rick's nack for screwing up... so they have to stay.
It seems to me that the writers for the show don't seem to get which parts of the books made the series great, because they always latch on to the other parts.
p.s. If you liked Lori then you obviously didn't watch the last two seasons..... started to feel a little sorry for her towards the end, but it's good she died.... at least it was a noble death so she could redeem herslef somewhat. T-Dog bothered me a lot more to be honest.... but then again they only gave the poor guy three lines a season, so he's expendable.
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