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| rablack97:
Well now I'm just bowing out LMAO...... It's all in fun for me....I think I bought from like 8 different suppliers when building, including the Andy's and Randy's of the world. All purchases were based on price point and the actual need of the feature..... It's like I said before, there is no right or wrong here, its personal prefence.... The next time is feel the need to get into the Guiness Book of World Records for MS. Pacman gameplay....I'll be off to buy the Limited Edition Super 4 Way restricted left hand offset stubbed handled carbon ball handle topped short throw laser cut mame enhanced model.... |
| yotsuya:
Just googled TOKN for fun. Yikes! |
| LeedsFan:
I'm surprised the thread went in this direction. I'm all for people trying different stuff. I appalud the OP for thinking of something that might suit some people in the community. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. For me... personally... it doesn't matter how good the software or firmware is. The Boolean logic could be 100% perfect or whatever. But if I'm playing Frogger or Donkey Kong I simply DEMAND a physically restricted 4-way joystick. And nothing else will cut it for me. Some people simply just aren't bothered (and I used to be like this when I first got into emulation). They will casually play with an 8-way and if they get chumpatized in the game they just go "Meh". They just want some Mame action and that's fair enough too |
| RandyT:
--- Quote from: mgb on October 19, 2012, 12:06:26 pm ---1)physical 4way restriction is best. (Duh, haven't we all known that).... --- End quote --- Evidently, based on some of the responses, this is not the case. --- Quote ---2)Randy gets really pissed any time someone else offers any type of product or software that is not GGG. --- End quote --- Actually, it's just posts like this one which do that. Not once in all of the accurate information I have offered here, have I mentioned a single one of my products, but there is someone else who is pushing a feature of one of theirs, which based on simple math and logic, cannot deliver what is being claimed. You can witness the disappointment with this type of approach from an actual user right here. And when questioning the company as how to get the device to deliver the promised performance, they were told (paraphrased) "when playing, don't do something which screws up the algorithm". The same advice can be given when using the default 4-way handling algorithm already present in the applications. If one enjoys conforming their playing style to an algorithm, then you can do that without the extra time and expense. My concerns are for the folks who don't understand how all of this works, and design a setup around the notion that such a thing is possible, when it is not. It doesn't do the community, or individual's pocketbooks, any favors to lead members down "dead-end" roads, which cause them to need to turn back and start again once they find themselves there. --- Quote from: PL1 on October 19, 2012, 01:12:07 pm ---To put this thread in gun terms: <apples and oranges gun analogy removed> Randy - In all seriousness, I think your passion for your products is truly commendable and both your products and customer service are top-notch, but not every business fills every part of every niche. Like the argument about admin buttons, there is more than one answer -- the "correct" one depends on builder/user preferences. --- End quote --- And that last statement is the one I am attempting to clarify for folks. This isn't a "preference" issue, as a few folks here are insisting. That is, unless your preference is poor 4-way gameplay that is equal to the default poor gameplay that is already present. Calling this a "preference issue" is tantamount to calling an encoder which has ghosting/blocking problems just as good as one which doesn't. That poorly designed encoder will still play games, as long as you don't do certain things while playing. But I think few here would want one. As I stated earlier, if something like this had any merit whatsoever, you would already see it on my products, Andy's products, and on those of any other encoder producer out there. Anyone who thinks that we haven't tested this for ourselves is giving in to fantasy. RandyT |
| PL1:
--- Quote from: yotsuya on October 19, 2012, 01:38:11 pm ---Just googled TOKN for fun. Yikes! --- End quote --- Roger that! If Degenatron's AVR is a Kia compared to Andy and Randy's Mercedes and Cadillac, would that make the TOKN a Trabant? :laugh2: Scott |
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