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selfie:
WP34 The bit with young Seth/Old Seth was a highlight for me too.

Vigo:

--- Quote from: selfie on October 08, 2012, 05:39:43 pm ---WP34 The bit with young Seth/Old Seth was a highlight for me too.

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--- Quote from: wp34 on October 07, 2012, 11:29:36 pm ---I thought the scene where young Seth is being tortured off camera and you see the effects happening to old Seth were freaky scary.  That whole sequence was as disturbing as it was brilliant.  I also loved the scene were Old Joe is giving Young Joe a lecture in the diner.  The acting was particularly great.


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Fully agree, that single scene was one of the coolest/scariest things done with time travel in a very long time.

The Diner scene was really good too, and it reminded me why I think so highly of Bruce Willis. I think I will have to rewatch 12 monkeys soon for more Bruce Willis time travel goodness.  8)


Maybe someone can give me a hand with the a part that confused me. When Old Joe killed the little kid, then thought back to his memories of his wife, you could hear a baby crying in the background. I get that he thinks back to his memories of his wife to determine if he rewrote history, but what is up with the baby crying? In the diner scene i believe, he mentioned that he couldn't have kids, so I figure it is somehow significant. 

wp34:
The writer/director has posted an MP3 in-theater commentary.   Kind of a neat deal if you are interested in seeing the movie twice.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2012/10/08/looper_in_theater_commentary_from_director_rian_johnson_download_or_stream_it_here_.html


--- Quote from: Vigo on October 08, 2012, 06:16:45 pm ---
Maybe someone can give me a hand with the a part that confused me. When Old Joe killed the little kid, then thought back to his memories of his wife, you could hear a baby crying in the background. I get that he thinks back to his memories of his wife to determine if he rewrote history, but what is up with the baby crying? In the diner scene i believe, he mentioned that he couldn't have kids, so I figure it is somehow significant. 

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I took it that he had changed some history at that point and they ended up having baby---his memories were changing.  I'm not sure I follow the Director's logic here though.


--- Quote from: selfie on October 07, 2012, 05:25:53 pm ---I saw it last night. I enjoyed it while watching it but after thinking about it, either I missed something or it just doesn't work...

Why did the sequence of old Joe being sent back get repeated when no other time sequence does? If old Joe came back in the bag, got shot, then young Joe gets paid,lives his life, fights back, comes back without the bag, then the story continues form there. Then it would work


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I listed to part of the commentary and the director admitted that if you diagram out the time-travel on paper you should have seen young Joe shoot old Joe first.   He edited it the way he did to make sure the audience understood that young Joe is really the main character.

Gray_Area:
The only sensible temporality flick off the top of my head is 12 Monkeys, because there's no paradox. I'm not saying it hasn't been done well, but not in movies. Look back to the 50s and 60s in SF and you'll see some ardent attempts. Maybe some successes, I forget.

More recent successes are Gregory Benford's TIMESCAPE (think bifurcation), and Stephen Baxter's EXULTANT (wherein the story that results from the 'incident' stands on its own).

Temporality is just a gimmick these days to make people think there's a story.

danny_galaga:

--- Quote from: wp34 on October 07, 2012, 11:29:36 pm ---I liked it but it didn't quite work for me as it seems to have for others.  I thought the time-travel sequences/discussions were pretty original.  I agree with Danny that the individual scenes were great.  The acting was great.   For some reason those little pieces didn't come together.  That being said I recommend seeing it.  I suspect this movie might grow on me more once I see it again.

I thought the scene where young Seth is being tortured off camera and you see the effects happening to old Seth were freaky scary.  That whole sequence was as disturbing as it was brilliant.  I also loved the scene were Old Joe is giving Young Joe a lecture in the diner.  The acting was particularly great.




--- Quote from: selfie on October 07, 2012, 05:25:53 pm ---If you want to see a good time travel movie try Primer but prepare for brain hurt...

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I loved Primer and it did make my head hurt.

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Yes, Seth scene was brilliant (",)

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