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Vigo:
I agree, it is a great plot for someone like my wife who will take in a good character story, and be willing to not think through the details. For people like me who enjoy seeing how the plot details make sense, there are a lot of roadblocks with this one.
Just a fair warning that I am not gonna use spoiler bars anymore. I figure everyone who has not watched the film yet has not made it this far down in the thread.
As far as my hand shoot theory goes, I assumed that powerful enough memories that were newly created would be soon after remembered and take by the person sent back. That's why old Joe remembered that hot steamy farm house lovin' young joe had. Other things like smashing the watch and going back into town pop in as well. My thought is, Joe shooting his hand would lead to the gun dropping, old Joe going "WTF happend to my hand??", and hopefully in that time, Sara would pick up the gun. Then the memory of young Joe realizing how the rainmaker came to be would surface on old joe and he would give up the chase at that point.
I could be wrong though. I was making assumptions. I assumed young joe wanted to see the picture of old joe's wife as an attempt to overwrite his memories on him, and that is the same reason old Joe wouldn't let him see it.
selfie:
Yeah, no more spoiler bars....
Old Joe/Young Joe was not the rainmaker, if he was it is just more errors that the director is hiding as "I just want to make it easier for the audience" There were "clues" hinting towards that but then there were other things that made it not really possible.
danny_galaga:
--- Quote from: selfie on October 11, 2012, 05:41:03 pm ---Yeah, no more spoiler bars....
Old Joe/Young Joe was not the rainmaker, if he was it is just more errors that the director is hiding as "I just want to make it easier for the audience" There were "clues" hinting towards that but then there were other things that made it not really possible.
--- End quote ---
That doesn't make sense, but I'm assuming this is the case, otherwise he made sweet lovin' to his mother :o
Not happy with that scenario though, since that would only make sense in your 'multiple universe' branching theme, with all it's different futures and pasts. If that was the case, who cares about someone else's future ;D
And not a plot mistake, but just something that occurred to me during the film- if only criminal gangs are using time machines, wouldn't the main thing they would use them for is to go back in time an hour and put stacks of cash on long shots at the races? The killings would be incidental.
Vigo:
Here's one to mull over. In the end of the movie, we saw killing young joe make old joe Vanish. Why did the mafia bother getting a surgeon to chop up young seth to lure old seth back to a warehouse to kill him? Why didn't they just kill young seth? Sadism is the only reason I can think of.
Here is another one. If the future mafia has such a hard time killing people, that they have to send them back 30 years in order to do the job, why just did they get trigger happy and kill Joe's wife?
danny_galaga:
Good points. For Seth, for sure it was just to ---fudgesicle--- with him, sadism is the answer.
I'm willing to let the accidental shooting of Joes wife slide. Accidental deaths can happen, even by criminals!
More food for thought, but not a plot failure as such. If only criminals are using time machines, then surely the best use is for making money, that's what criminal organisations are about. Killing is an unfortunate side effect of making stacks of illicit cash. Wouldn't they be sending people back an hour in time to bet big on long shots at the races etc? That's not a flaw of the movie as such, but I'd have shown a small part of that industry to show the audience that is the main use of the machines. Then the Loopers would be an intriguing side story.
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