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ark_ader:

--- Quote from: Malenko on September 17, 2012, 11:40:20 am ---
--- Quote from: ark_ader on September 17, 2012, 06:48:44 am ---I need to rename this thread to X2's Dietary Advice Thread.

Can any mod rename it for me?  ::)

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And you thought I was annoying. Eating like Xiaou2 get's you brittle bone disease, FACT!

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Well you made it off my ignore list.  So you are dong well so far.  ;D

Not sure about X2 yet but we are all very different, I guess.

rogerskevin67:

--- Quote from: ChadTower on September 14, 2012, 04:19:30 pm ---


That's just a foolish idea.  Fruits and vegetables have been a large part of the human diet for thousands of years.  I will not accept the notion that all of a sudden, in this fast food driven generation, it's the real food that is the problem.  Obesity was never a problem until recently.  Fast food didn't exist until recently.  This is not a coincedence.


This generation mostly sits all day.  Every prior generation did mostly physical labor of one sort or another.  The calorie burn of every person now is completely different and yet portions continue to get bigger and food continues to come more processed and with more fat/salt.  Make people work less and have them eat more and you end up with fat people.


Why is that so hard to accept?

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I am completely agreed with you, our life style is the only cause behind this fattiness.

stuckpixel:

--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on September 16, 2012, 09:32:51 pm --- The problem with you is that you dont have any real WILLPOWER.

 You dont have the will to look up correct health information.
 You dont have the will to stop eating fatty Garbage in large quantities.
 You dont have the will to take the reins. 

 You Blame others for your poor eating habits. (as in, blaming the Doc for the speed of safe un-doing)
 You deflect obvious and sensible information.
 You choose to ignore health concerns, in favor of keeping the same mindset and behavior, for an achievement you know Wont Last.
 You also choose to be irresponsible, spreading unhealthy solutions, to others.

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Look X2, I'm glad that normal 'healthy' diet works for you. What you fail to realize is that simply because that method of eating worked well for you, doesn't mean it's going to be the best for others.

For a very long time, I tried eating a traditional low fat, low calorie diet. At the time, I weighed somewhere around 325. Couple a sub-2000 calorie low fat diet with going to the gym every day for an hour, and I did lose weight. But, not very much. I _maaybe_ got down to the 290s. I'm sure you'll brush this off as me not sticking to the diet, or not calculating what I was eating -- but rest assured, I was pretty consistent. On top of the very very slow weight loss, I also felt hungry _ALL_ the time, and was pretty much miserable.

Given that I didn't feel like spending the next couple of years feeling miserable (which is about how long it would have taken to get to where I wanted to go at that rate) - I decided not to eat that way any longer. I went off diet and quickly ballooned up to 325 again. Happened to coencide with my daughter being born, so I couldn't hit the gym every day after work like I had been doing either.

After I got sick of being fat - I stumbled across keto. I read the research, and figured I'd try it for a couple months and see if it worked. It definately took some getting used to - but the weight MELTED off, and I wasn't feeling hungry all the time. My lowest at this point has been about 225 -- I've been in a diet slump lately and I've packed a few back on, but I'm getting back on board and going to try to hit a new low.

For me, a low fat diet leaves me feeling TERRIBLE. Yes, I can lose weight, but it takes forever, and I feel like hot garbage the whole time. Eating a ketogenic (high fat, moderate protein, very low carbohydrate) diet, I never feel hungry, and the weight melts off.

Forks over Knives and it's ilk is a very one sided view on nutrition. But hey, if it works for you, more power to you. But don't go off and start insulting people and their willpower without actually understanding their diet and the factors behind it (metabolic syndrome, sugar addiction, pre-diabetes, etc), .

You come off as very much 'holier-than-thou' - some humility would probably go well with the 'meditation' that you seem to think that everyone else needs.

shmokes:
Low fat is stupid. Think of when the Low Fat craze took off in America. Exactly. Right about the same time when we were ballooning into a bunch of walking manitees. Fat was never the problem. People subconsciously have this absurd notion that you eat fat and it just, like, attaches itself intact to your thighs or belly. Think about what we ate prior to our rapid descent into obesity. Red meat. Butter. Whole milk. Lard. Crisco.

To the extent that low fat helps, I suppose it's that fat is high in calories. But it also takes a comparitively long time to be broken down into sugars by your body, so you don't end up getting hungry and eating again as soon as if you forego the fat.

Xiaou2:
Of all people, Im very aware, sympathetic, and compassionate... towards people who have issues / disabilities.

 Ive known, and defended, people who ate very little.. but were still 'massy'.

 On the other hand... there are many who, unlike yourself, ...do not stick to a standard sized portion... Eat a lot of fatty junk foods, high calorie drinks,  sometimes skip meals,  tons of fatty milk butter, and cheeses, high-fat deep-fried foods, and Eat late at night right before bed... etc.   These types of things are guaranteed to make things worse.. not better...  And its often why people have gained such mass, and why they can not keep it off.

 I never said that its Always the case.  And if I was seriously overweight.. I too Might try something like Atkins.  Or surgery.  However.. I dont think Id ever brag about it... nor would I openly recommend others to try it.  These things are very risky.  There's no telling what kinds of future damages that could result...  such as a 30yr lifespan drop / hyper - accelerated aging... and or irreversible damages to important cellular functionality.   And the worst thing is... people will just gain it all back.. unless they learn and stick to better dietary measures...

 This is why I raise my voice and concern.   I personally do not think its a healthy and safe thing to do.  And do not believe its good to promote such a thing.   And if we are going to hear about it regardless... Im going to at least put in my 2cents worth of dietary advice... which may, or may not, help others... in a more natural and lasting way.


 On a personal side note...

 Ive found within myself... that a small serving of lean meats... such as Turkey or Chicken, work far better to satisfy hunger than carbs or sugary substances.  So, Ill eat like 2 cold-cuts worth, possibly a carrot & few maybe a couple of tortilla chips.  Taking with me a piece of fruit for mid-morning,  then head off to work.   

 For lunch...  if I get a lunch... a very small portion of meat, with a much larger portion of veggies, and some rice. (little to no oils in the mix. No butter/margarine.  Just lots of great spices)   Real steamed rice, with good seasoning is very filling, and has decent protein content on its own.  Rice is much cheaper than meat... so it makes for a good mix.

 Dinner is a larger portion, and often fruits for snacks in the night.  Ill eat some sugary things, like pudding or ice cream once in a while... and some tortilla chips here and there as well.   Almond milk, for calcium.  (which is very low in fat, higher in calcium, low in calories... and tastes great to boot)


 I used to have the inverse problem:  Bone-Showing thin / frailty.  Could eat and eat and eat.. and still be way too hungry.  This turned out to be mass food allergies... and gluten (wheat) intolerance.  Age and worsening allergic reactions, have played a huge shift in my mass, health, and now my new-found diet.

 Age slowed my metabolism down significantly.  Which gained me mass.  But the allergens worsened, and caused 'Major Havok'  ;)  ,in my system.  Causing chemical imbalances, depression, horse throat (constant production and thus hacking of phlegm), and the eventual need for removal of my Gall Bladder... and later, a benign but annoying Nodule that developed on my thyroid.

 Its been a tough ride.... and I merely wish to share my own dietary experiences, and knowledge that Ive gained from this whole journey.  Most especially because Im much more sensitive to even small changes... due to a much weaker  "low-nutrient-absorbing"  system.

 I tell you... I think Id rather be massively overweight... than to be intolerant to Dairy, Eggs, Soy, Wheat, and probably some other things Ive yet to discover.   At very least, its made me a better cook.. and able to make things that are healthier, with a lot less fat.. and still maintain great taste.   But with conditions like this... you cant just order out... nor drive-thru.. and cost of allergen free foods that are not easy to make... are wallet draining.  (3x or more the standard cost)

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