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Gatt:


--- Quote from: MonMotha on September 03, 2012, 11:13:28 pm ---
Also, even with 1Gb Ethernet (typical end-user LAN connectivity), it still takes nearly 4 hours to move 1TB of data.  Internet connections to the home are not going to be there in the US for some time due to telecom monopolies.  FTTH and DOCSIS3 networks are available now in most major cities, but they generally top out at ~100-200Mbps "down" and 20-50Mbps "up".  That "up" number is very limiting for "cloud" storage of large amounts of data.  Anyway, my point on "cloud" storage was twofold: even if you are putting your terrabytes of data "in the cloud", the cloud provider is just going to dump it on conventional revolving metal disks most of the time, so there will still be a market for them even if everybody did that, and you'd still effectively be using them, though your "cloud" provider will hide most of the issues associated with small HDD installations from you (at the cost of being limited by your Internet connection, which was the second part of my point).


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Actually,  what they'll do is:  For common pieces of unchanging data,  they'll store it once and given everyone a pointer to those files.  If 1 million people have a full MAME set stored,  and those files are all identical,  it makes no sense to store them 1 million times.  Store them once,  give everyone a pointer to them for only a few bits of space,  and save alot of money on storage costs.  It's likely that were cloud storage to take off,  that's how it'll work.  A good algorithm would even do a CRC client side and skip the upload entirely,  saving both parties alot of time/energy/bandwidth.

I'd argue that a substantial amount of data would be able to be handled that way.

But honestly,  I sincerely doubt "Cloud storage" is ever going to be anything but a small niche product.  Privacy concerns are pretty large with it,  as is security.  I mean seriously,  a huge number of people won't even enter their credit card numbers on the internet even today,  I doubt highly they're going to be ok with Cloud Storage keeping their data.

Gray_Area:


--- Quote from: Gatt on September 04, 2012, 12:04:21 am ---Actually,  what they'll do is:  For common pieces of unchanging data,  they'll store it once and given everyone a pointer to those files.  If 1 million people have a full MAME set stored,  and those files are all identical,  it makes no sense to store them 1 million times.  Store them once,  give everyone a pointer to them for only a few bits of space,  and save alot of money on storage costs.  It's likely that were cloud storage to take off,  that's how it'll work.  A good algorithm would even do a CRC client side and skip the upload entirely,  saving both parties alot of time/energy/bandwidth.
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Socialism!

MTPPC:

The system I'm typing on right now is a custom hybrid. It has Ubuntu on a 64GB SSD with my home directory on a 1.5GB conventional HD. I also run win2k in virtualbox off of the ssd for startup and shutdown performance. I use quickbooks 2000 and have no need or desire for newer software. I also use windows remote desktop viewer under win2k.

My point is that practical use of a computer suggests the data storage configuration. Cloud is a bunch of nonsense being sold to people to gain lock in. I'm not going to pay anyone to store my data when I can buy as much storage as I want for $100/TB. My pinball cabinet also runs off an SSD for boot speed and so I can nudge the hell out of the machine with no worries about a mechanical drive. Again, how you use the computer will dictate how your data should be stored. If you want to give your data to some faceless corporation, don't be surprised when they can't or won't give it back.

Back on topic, I'm seeing prices on storage dropping right now. Especially on the USB2.0 external drives. They're being clearanced everywhere. Tigerdircet has 1 TB drives for $75 after rebate and $90 with no rebate right now. 1.5TB for $87 with free shipping is on the same page. I think you just need a little more patience for the deals to work their way through the supply chain.

bullrees:

I bought 2 internal 2 TB drives a few months back for 89.00us each from best buy.
Model: STBD2000101

Looks like they are back up to 110.00us at best buy.

99.99 each on new egg now.(in cart price)


Vigo:

Drives are going back down in price. I just watch Slickdeals. Yesterday I bought a 2tb external 7200 drive with usb 3.0 for $75 at staples. Sure, it is a dealhunt, but it seems to be comparable to prices before the spike hit.

http://slickdeals.net/f/5151856-Seagate-Expansion-2TB-USB-3-0-Black-Desktop-Hard-Drive-78-74-AC-Staples

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