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ChadTower:

How is this worse than Ed Hochuli botching that Chargers/Broncos game a couple years ago? 

Vigo:
Well, the fact that it can be compared to what a lot of people call the worst Ref call in NFL history already speaks volumes. (At least worst if you think the tuck rule call is justifiable).

I would say that there are a couple differences here that make this call worse. First, San Diego screw up was not a scoring play. They were given a bad call, but at least the chargers had further opportunity to stop the Broncos from scoring, granted it was in the final minutes. The Packer game was a situation where the Packers were winning, and on the absolute final play of the game, the refs awards a touchdown to a guy who who didn't catch the ball. Tate even pushed off another player to be in on the jump.

The second difference I see is that this falls on the entire referee group. The Ed Hochuli call was one ref who was accountable. He was demoted after that game. This game, all the replacement refs footlocker employees the NFL hired were clueless. One ref got the call right and didn't bother to speak up. They shouldn't have even made a defining call until reviewing the play, because they knew their initial decision was not reversible in this case.

ChadTower:

--- Quote from: Vigo on September 25, 2012, 10:29:39 am ---Well, the fact that it can be compared to what a lot of people call the worst Ref call in NFL history already speaks volumes. (At least worst if you think the tuck rule call is justifiable).

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The tuck rule call was right.  Can't blame a weird rule on the people enforcing it.  It was an awkward and stupid rule but it was applied correctly when it happened.  I view that as an officiating win.  All replays show they got the rule called properly in real time and in review.

Vigo:

--- Quote from: ChadTower on September 25, 2012, 10:38:22 am ---
--- Quote from: Vigo on September 25, 2012, 10:29:39 am ---Well, the fact that it can be compared to what a lot of people call the worst Ref call in NFL history already speaks volumes. (At least worst if you think the tuck rule call is justifiable).

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The tuck rule call was right.  Can't blame a weird rule on the people enforcing it.  It was an awkward and stupid rule but it was applied correctly when it happened.  I view that as an officiating win.  All replays show they got the rule called properly in real time and in review.

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I agree. It was a case where the rule sucked, and the fact that it was previously unenforced that made it dumb, not the refs that enforced the rule. To me, the tuck rule signified the point in NFL history where the rules officially became a hindrance to the game. The league mentality was to base game play on technicalities. Right now, it feels like watching an NBA game. Players are looking for a penalty call after practically every play. Not to mention that due to rule changes, the QB is treated like a hemophiliac and the run game is dying. Next year, they will probably be attaching velcro flags to each players' hips.

ChadTower:

Well, this year, it's the physical pass defenses that are winning.  Look at who the surprise teams are.  They're bump and run defenses.  This year it's more like grab and molest.  Finesse timing offenses, like New England, are completely disrupted because backfield coverages are grabbing so much more than the last couple of years.  This is absolutely a result of the difference in officiating.  These refs don't have the real time skill to apply the rules the same way so they are afraid to make judgement calls.  Then, when they do, half the time it's wrong anyway.  Then throw in a couple of shots like the ones Romo kept taking this week and I'm surprised some teams are scoring on offense at all.

Granted, those pass interference rules have been way too much in favor of the offense recently, but the rules needed to be changed.  Just changing the way everything is called wasn't the right way to fix things.

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