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Le Chuck:

--- Quote from: Drnick on September 04, 2012, 03:40:08 pm ---No problem, if you run into anything else you don't have CC for let me know, I may have it in my collection of movies/miniseries I am amazed that there weren't any available.  I did find some, but on comparing the legit version ripped from disk and the version i found,  boy oh boy, no wonder you were manually translating from Dutch.

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And roger.   ;D

Seriously tho, me-> :notworthy:  :burgerking: <-you

Now I'm off to check on Tinman subs since it seems that the kids just scratched those discs all to hell and it's starting to skip.  Time for a DL'd back-up copy ;)

Incidentally this may be the most productive threadjack evar.  Thanks to the OP as well!

Gray_Area:

--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on August 24, 2012, 01:34:25 am ---I generally love microsoft products, but for mkvs or anything with subs, wmp sucks. 

I watch a TON of Japanese anime, so I've tried about every solution out there over the years.

This will fix your problems immediately.

1.  Download Windows Media Player Classic Home Cinema Edition (x64 if you are on a 64 bit os) It has nothing to do with windows at this point.

2.  Download the latest CCCP pack of codecs.  You are looking for "10 bit" codecs as newer videos are often 10 bit.

3.  Enjoy!  WMPCHCE will play about anything you throw at it with multiple types of subs. If you do run into issues with a file, you can probably download a codec to fix it, as opposed to WMP which will most likey ignore the codec.

Hope that helps!

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Maybe there are no files with the data, but I tried this and still no embedded subs.

What's funny is that CC will display everything but non-english.

Le Chuck:

--- Quote from: Gray_Area on September 15, 2012, 01:47:30 am ---
Maybe there are no files with the data, but I tried this and still no embedded subs.

What's funny is that CC will display everything but non-english.

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Are you talking about a specific file or an entire set?  Usually non English cc is hard coded on films and won't be included in the sub files as it is displayed anyway; however, some files use rips that are not Region 1 and so don't have the foreign parts hard coded but the sub file will still just include the English.  In those cases you usually have to download a separate file that is annotated as non English only or English and non English speaking parts.  Can you give more details about what's wonky? 

Gray_Area:
I thought that embedded subtitles would be part of the video stream, and wouldn't need some special codec (or at least one other than the codec decoding the signal) for them to appear.

For example, in Hidalgo there are parts where the people are speaking Arabic. Long tracts, so you know it's part of the story and embedded subtitles should be displaying. I think I remember them displaying when I watched it on DVD some years ago. The currect case is files on my computer. VOB files, even, so it should play like a DVD, right?

Le Chuck:

--- Quote from: Gray_Area on September 15, 2012, 03:02:09 pm ---I thought that embedded subtitles would be part of the video stream, and wouldn't need some special codec (or at least one other than the codec decoding the signal) for them to appear.

For example, in Hidalgo there are parts where the people are speaking Arabic. Long tracts, so you know it's part of the story and embedded subtitles should be displaying. I think I remember them displaying when I watched it on DVD some years ago. The currect case is files on my computer. VOB files, even, so it should play like a DVD, right?

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Right but it depends on the source of those VOB files and how the hard coded sub was actually embedded.  If the source wasn't region one there is a fair chance that the non english wasn't hard coded.  As such it would behoove you to search for a sub that is non-english parts annotated on Subscene

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