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Howard_Casto:
--- Quote from: SavannahLion on August 26, 2012, 02:23:22 am ---Especially if the DVD is clearly marked on the box for subs or CC.
Have you jumped on the HDTV cable box broadcast bandwagon yet? Did you notice the entire CC carrier signal was dropped on anything other than composite/cable? That makes long term recording and storage of HDTV broadcasts a massive challenge. I had to create the SRT file by hand, took me the better part of my Saturday just for a 1/2 hour broadcast.
:soapbox:
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It's sucks, but that is by design. HTDV out allows for digital encryption by the source. So cable providers intentionally screw with the signal, completely scrambing some of the premium channels for recording and removing features from others. Basically they only give you what is federally required of them to give you. Of course they do this based on pressure by the media giants, who own both the major cable networks and the big movie studios.
I don't want to get this moved into pnr, but the sad thing is a lot of people gave them this power, by voting for the wrong politicians and voting on the wrong side of various propositions.
Le Chuck:
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on August 26, 2012, 04:56:54 am ---
--- Quote from: SavannahLion on August 26, 2012, 02:23:22 am ---Especially if the DVD is clearly marked on the box for subs or CC.
Have you jumped on the HDTV cable box broadcast bandwagon yet? Did you notice the entire CC carrier signal was dropped on anything other than composite/cable? That makes long term recording and storage of HDTV broadcasts a massive challenge. I had to create the SRT file by hand, took me the better part of my Saturday just for a 1/2 hour broadcast.
:soapbox:
--- End quote ---
It's sucks, but that is by design. HTDV out allows for digital encryption by the source. So cable providers intentionally screw with the signal, completely scrambing some of the premium channels for recording and removing features from others. Basically they only give you what is federally required of them to give you. Of course they do this based on pressure by the media giants, who own both the major cable networks and the big movie studios.
I don't want to get this moved into pnr, but the sad thing is a lot of people gave them this power, by voting for the wrong politicians and voting on the wrong side of various propositions.
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The cc carrier stream is federally required but there is no enforcement body. Even when you wave the law at them they just shrug their shoulders and point to the bottom line of how many cents they saved by trimming that signal and then let you know you're the first person to every come to a central station and complain. I've been through this rigamarole for years.
As for cable we cut the cord as a family 6 years ago. Haven't had it at all and don't miss it. If we want a series I can get it downloaded and have it subbed w/in the space of a few hours (most series now have really great sub support - there are several forums dedicated to it) or we just go buy the thing. It's not worth the disappointment to pay and not be able to enjoy a lot of content and features. I have noticed that youtube's CC service has been improving which is great. I'm really hoping that all streamed video will pick up CC soon, a few news websites already have.
SavannahLion:
Le Chuck is correct, CC is federally mandated. Why do you think every television over a specific dimension was required to have CC circuitry installed in the early 90's? It wasn't a cost saving measure. :laugh2:
My family bought the very first model manufactured with built-in CC circuitry under the new laws. A Zenith 29" if I remember correctly.
Howard, you have no clue what you're talking about. ::) The HDTV signal does have the CC carrier signal. Scrambling the signal has jack ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- to do with the CC carrier, it gets scrambled/descrambled just the same as the rest of the video signal. Re-read my post, it's the transmission after the box.
Howard_Casto:
Well I know what I'm talking about, but your in one of your moods again, so there isn't any point in arguing.
Just read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_captioning#Incompatibility_issues_with_HDTV
In this case the "device" is your cable/sat box, and they aren't required to spend the money to fix the issue and thus they don't. Being federally required to send the signal and actually being able to view it are two different things. You've got to love those loopholes.
SavannahLion:
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on August 26, 2012, 01:35:33 pm ---Well I know what I'm talking about, but your in one of your moods again, so there isn't any point in arguing.
Just read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_captioning#Incompatibility_issues_with_HDTV
In this case the "device" is your cable/sat box, and they aren't required to spend the money to fix the issue and thus they don't. Being federally required to send the signal and actually being able to view it are two different things. You've got to love those loopholes.
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There you go again, acting like the usual ass you are. This isn't one of my "moods" as you so put it so delicately, my patience with your crap simply has run out.
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