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yotsuya:
Whatever you do, don't sell your purple tophat.
MacGyver:
Well as far as I know, if you want to use REAL light guns, you are going to need at the minimum, a CRT of some sort.  It is getting harder to find CRTs, and that Opti board is only an interface, I thought you still needed the CRT to blast that little white square to be picked up by the sensor in the gun.
A Wii (and Aimtrak)  has an IR camera in the control, and a distinctive array of IR emitters that the camera looks for, and judges where the gun is pointed based upon that.  The Wii sucks compared to an Aimtrak, but the Aimtrak isn't perfect, but it does offer an intelligent calibration method that the Wii lacks, so it is more accurate.   I have used Aimtraks in Happ shells to play various games with no crosshairs, and it works at least as well as some of the arcade guns I've used in real life.
Le Chuck:
User by the name of John Blund seems to be headed towards light gun development.  Check out this thread.  Way too early to tell if it will actually happen but Emphatic vouches for the guy.  I sincerely hope he produces such a device.   
paigeoliver:
I have often found it can be more price effective to just buy an actual game that uses a specialty control than it is to try to shoehorn some of the stranger controls into a mame build.

Light guns in mame are one of the areas that, well, are still somewhat lacking. I would probably just check craigslist daily for 3 months or so until I could pick up an Area 51, Police Trainer or similar in the $200 range (they do come up in that range often enough, all the time in the $300 range). Sure you only get one game, but it will get that shooting monkey off your back and there won't be any compromises in how it works.
Purple Tophat:

--- Quote ---Be a man....Buy what you need and dont sell nothing!, (dont tell her I said that.)....Giggle, Welcome to the fourm.
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HAHA!! You know...that's totally my fault. I've only been married for 8 months and I'm still learning the ropes! If I'd have said "I think I'm gonna build an arcade machine", she would have been all about it and given me no grief whatsoever, so long as it's themed purple and has an awesome jukebox, both of which it would feature with or without her. But I had to open my yapper and say "You know, I think I'm gonna sell my old drum set and eBay the rest of that stuff so I can use the money to build an arcade machine". To a guy, that means I'm just gonna build an arcade machine, but to my wife, that means I'm ACTUALLY going to sell stuff first. Lesson learned!!!


--- Quote ---Whatever you do, don't sell your purple tophat.
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The tophat stays! As do the purple HAPP guns, the Purple 1974 VW Bug, the 11 purple ties...oh the list goes on and on! The wife wouldn't want any of that gone anyhow, so I can breathe easy! HAHA!


--- Quote ---Well as far as I know, if you want to use REAL light guns, you are going to need at the minimum, a CRT of some sort.  It is getting harder to find CRTs, and that Opti board is only an interface, I thought you still needed the CRT to blast that little white square to be picked up by the sensor in the gun.
A Wii (and Aimtrak)  has an IR camera in the control, and a distinctive array of IR emitters that the camera looks for, and judges where the gun is pointed based upon that.  The Wii sucks compared to an Aimtrak, but the Aimtrak isn't perfect, but it does offer an intelligent calibration method that the Wii lacks, so it is more accurate.   I have used Aimtraks in Happ shells to play various games with no crosshairs, and it works at least as well as some of the arcade guns I've used in real life.
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Good to know for sure! The CRT is no problem! Besides the fact that there are tube tvs all over the world, how long do you think it will take before EVERY 25" arcade crt monitor is gone from the earth? Loooong time! If all else were to fail, at least I know I can go the aimtrak route and have decent aiming without crosshairs. I'm still going to wait and see what develops, but plan B is always good to have.


--- Quote ---User by the name of John Blund seems to be headed towards light gun development.  Check out this thread.  Way too early to tell if it will actually happen but Emphatic vouches for the guy.  I sincerely hope he produces such a device.
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YES YES YES! That does look intriguing, doesn't it? I'll be watching that thread for sure! He seems serious and capable. It seems to be a ways off, but I can definitely wait for the real deal!! We need to encourage him and support him in this endeavor. I liked seeing that you offered to send him a HAPP 45 for testing!!! Seems like our best bet for sure!! If he pulls that off, he is the man.


--- Quote ---I have often found it can be more price effective to just buy an actual game that uses a specialty control than it is to try to shoehorn some of the stranger controls into a mame build.

Light guns in mame are one of the areas that, well, are still somewhat lacking. I would probably just check craigslist daily for 3 months or so until I could pick up an Area 51, Police Trainer or similar in the $200 range (they do come up in that range often enough, all the time in the $300 range). Sure you only get one game, but it will get that shooting monkey off your back and there won't be any compromises in how it works.
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HA! Funny you should mention that. I just found a Lethal Enforcers on Craigslist for $200. I asked the wife about it earlier and she said to go ahead and get it. Then she proceeded to give me 20 reasons why I didn't need to, and said that if I'm patient I can just integrate the HAPP guns into the MAME cabinet I'm going to build. To be fair, we're renting a condo right now while we're looking to buy a home, so it would just sit in the garage for the foreseeable future. That's part of why I'm not rushing to build this cabinet. I've nowhere to put it until we move. Don't get me wrong, I'm married to a sweet, wonderful, beautiful woman (is she listening?), but I just don't get why she has to be so damn logical all the time. Sometimes you just wanna go out and buy a Lethal Enforcers cabinet for $200 that you leave in the garage for 6 months untouched. How does this not make sense? Bah...she's right, but I hate that she's right.

Alright, so I'm going to hold onto hope that Mr. John Blund has our backs and proceed with my designs as if I'll be able to integrate my guns one way or another. You haven't heard the last of me though...fear not! For I am completely inept, and shall be needing loads of advice! I'll be sure to post these questions in the appropriate sections. Thank you all again for the warm welcome and for the swift answers!  :afro:
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