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Aggressive nudging to the point of being sexually explicit
brad808:
What's the deal nudgers? The other day I was playing a game (avatar.. to set the mood) and someone pulls up beside me to play a rolling stones machine. Within a matter of seconds this guy is smashing his pelvis into the front of the machine and aggressively shaking it from side to side, nudging? I'll admit that I'm fairly new to pinball and don't do much nudging aside from a slight jolt to grasp at straws trying to save my ball from draining or the obviously stuck ball scenario, but there is no way this could be considered "normal". He reminded me of the guys at the gym that moan and groan way too loud and often.
On my home machine I have the tilt bob set basically to the lowest point it can go without the bob physically falling off the rod. I understand the whole idea of some games incorporating nudging into gameplay and that slight nudges should be aloud although I'm yet to see the point in having my tilt higher and setting off every time I get a stuck ball. I know anyone that plays the machine including myself won't be picking it up "cheating" trying to save the ball or rack up some points.
So how about you guys? What are your thoughts on tilt and where do you set yours? Do you finesse your machine like a gentleman or rape it like a hillbilly?
drventure:
--- Quote from: brad808 on August 07, 2012, 07:50:42 pm ---Do you finesse your machine like a gentleman or rape it like a hillbilly?
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I've never really got the hang of nudging, but I've seen guys in the tournament at the tx pinball fest really bashing the machines
ChadTower:
--- Quote from: pinballjim on August 08, 2012, 09:55:15 am ---I'd still like to see a real death save. Not that blurry video of the Twilight Zone on the wobbly legs. I've gotten close before on a couple of location games, but it's usually sliding back a good 6 inches after I attempt it.
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Some games do it fairly well. I have even seen a ball death save itself. Came back down the middle at warp speed perpendicular to where it hit the apron. Hit the apron so hard it came right back up and landed on the opposite flipper. Games with some flex in the apron metal at that spot are easier to deathsave than others. Still, it takes a shot that would tilt any game with a reasonable bob setting.
--- Quote ---Whenever I go to some collector's house that's got way too much time and money invested, I'll always hunker down and grunt a few times just to watch them have a heart attack. ;D
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Heh. I learned to play for the first couple of years almost exclusively at the houses of local collectors. Restored stuff, private collections, etc. I was so paranoid about nudging their babies preventing further invitations that I didn't learn to nudge for years and am still not that good at it.
My son and I played in 125 person pinball tournament this past weekend. Some of those guys were nudging the games around to the absolute max a bob would allow. It's worth noting that in a deep field of top players none of the top finishers were big showy nudge guys.
TopJimmyCooks:
You're never going to be the best player you can be if you don't move it around. I slap and nudge a decent amount but nothing I wouldn't want somebody else doing to my own game. The only death saves I've seen happened without me trying to do them, balls just bounced back in at exactly the right angle off the apron. I have liberal tilt settings and i still sometimes tilt if its going out the side anyway. I don't attempt to slide or bang back. or rage tilt.
To get started try some slap saves- just moving the flipper over a 1/4" to get a ball in the middle but near the flipper. Another easy technique is to push forward to get the ball away the side drains. That may have been why the guy you saw was humping the machine, using pelvic thrusts rather than his hands. On Mystic, where the side lane openings are huge, I nudge almost every time I hit a sling so the ball will sling with more power, higher, away from the side lanes towards the drop targets. If you use this technique it doubles your ball times. If you watch Papa videos and stuff you see all these techniques. Those guys often tap the sides as the balls come around the orbits to make sure they miss the slings and get to the flippers. I guess the tournament games are set to a steep pitch and the balls curl down towards the tops of the slings.
A while back X2 posted a video of a guy working the ball over from one lane divider to the next to get the ball down the lit lane - that was inspiring - would love to see it again.
capsule:
--- Quote from: pinballjim on August 08, 2012, 09:55:15 am ---I'd still like to see a real death save. Not that blurry video of the Twilight Zone on the wobbly legs. I've gotten close before on a couple of location games, but it's usually sliding back a good 6 inches after I attempt it.
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This video shows a nice one (2 in fact!)
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