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felix pontifex:
Hi, I have been trying to set up some light gun games to work with MAME, and the experience on the whole has been... exhausting to say the least. While I originally intended to get some light guns that were actually designed for the PC, all of the producers of such light guns have stopped production. Because of this I decided to turn to Guncons (specifically Guncon 2 and a Nyko Super Cobra [3rd party guncon 1]). After searching for how to get a Guncon 2 to communicate with a PC, what I found was that WinGun was the program that worked for people, as Guncon2PC had a "rolling x issue". I could not find out about this myself, because every link to Sm0gdragon's work ended in a 404 page in Italian.

After installing WinGun, I found that my Guncon 2 is not being recognized (nor my super cobra, but that is to be expected because I am running it through an adapter). Unfortunately no one else has had this problem, because I could not find any links to the issue. Hence why I am here asking for help.

Is there something I am doing wrong that I am just too stupid to see myself?

Running around trying to find an answer has left me with a blood vessel in my brain that is just about ready to pop.

I am running Windows 7 64 bit, and I am connecting to a TV via a VGA to RCA converter box. I have tested the Guncon 2 and it works with my PS 2 just dandy. Let me know what else you need to know in order to answer my question.

Howard_Casto:
Why are you using a vga 2 rca box? I would suggest getting a dedicated video card with svid out if you are using that type of tv. Converting the signal via an external device is going to cause timing issues (i think it would at least) and it'll reek havoc on any lightgun you plug in.

If your tv has svid and you are willing to do that, I've got a old act-labs svid gun I'll sell ya cheap.... it's a little rough cosmetically (it's the ray gun kind) but it's still pixel perfect. I'm now using a lcd monitor in my cab and thus I don't have any use for it anymore.

Your other solution is ultimarcs "fake" lightgun system. It works rather well from what I've been told, but it's more of a wiimote-like solution.

felix pontifex:
My old graphics card used to have S-video, if I remember correctly, my current one only has HDMI. so the only way that act labs gun would work is if I had a means of converting the signal to it, considering my tv only has the screw in cable (coaxial? is that the right word?). Furthermore, the only Aimtracs I can find are all $95 a pop, and I would rather try and get this software working than try and drop $100 for another light gun. If you could tell me where I could find one for a more reasonable price I'd consider looking into it.

I dunno. If I really can't get them to work with my PC I'll consider buying that act labs gun off you. You will have to wait a bit until my paycheck comes in though, I'm pretty broke right now. PM me the price you are thinking of parting with it for.

Howard_Casto:
Ok I'm not telling you what to do at all, but before you worry about lightguns you might want to get a better monitor.

A videocard with hdmi-out is of no use to a monitor that can only display 480i I'm not saying get a lcd panel or anything that drastic (although they are quite cheap now), but you might want to look into a used arcade monitor or at the very least a better tv. Coaxial isn't rca... it's actually one step down from rca as the audio and video are combined. Any gun solution you use (save the aimtrack) is going to need a direct connection to the monitor to work properly.... you've got two good options in terms of video cards, but your tv just doesn't have the inputs needed for any solution on the market.

Once you get that sorted:

You can buy an aimtrack kit for only $44 and install it in one of your existing guns.

You could optionally use a wiimote, but a wiimote is around 60 bucks, plus another 10 or so for a gun housing, plus another 10 for a bluetooth adaptor... plus 15 for a sensor bar..... if you don't already have the equiptment it isn't really cost-effective.

Yeah I'll still sell you my gun if you want it. I'm not particularly trying to make money or anything, I just don't need it and you do. I'll take whatever I make and put that towards an aimtrack kit.

felix pontifex:
I actually have a better monitor (22" LCD, and I know someone with an LCD tv that is a bit bigger that they aren't using if I really wanted bigger), the reason why I got the converter box was to hook into my old CRT tv so that I could get the guncons to work with it.

Regarding the Aimtrak kit: will it actually fit inside my Guncon 2? Is it designed to do that? if so, $45 is more reasonable and is something to consider. (or does it fit inside guncon 1's only? I'd love to know more about how to use the kit.)

Regarding the wii remote: another idea I would like more information on. I own a wii and 2 remotes, both of which are pretty much just sitting gathering dust. (furthermore, wii remotes are less than $40 for the remote part now where I live, and finding some for very cheap would be no problem if I didn't want to mess with my own) If there is software out there that can make the wii remote behave like an aimtrak (where it calculates where you are pointing on the monitor as opposed to just the sensor bar) then I would definitely be interested in finding out more about gun housing and whatnot.

I'll go checking my other TV's to see if any of them have an S-Video after I determine more about the aimtrak and wii-mote options.

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