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UncleArgyle:

Has anyone ever replaced the spring in the Spitfire Joystick found at GroovyGameGear.com?

http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65&products_id=370

I'd like to stiffen up the joystick if possible.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Mike

Nephasth:

Looks like a cross between a JLW and JLF, but since the body and restrictor look like a JLF I would try the custom springs Paradise Arcade sells: https://www.paradisearcadeshop.com/en/search?orderby=position&orderway=desc&search_query=spring

Edit: Updated link. Paradise is getting too many new products. :)

RandyT:


--- Quote from: UncleArgyle on July 27, 2012, 03:18:53 pm ---Has anyone ever replaced the spring in the Spitfire Joystick found at GroovyGameGear.com?

http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65&products_id=370

I'd like to stiffen up the joystick if possible.

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A word of caution;

The Spitfire, and those which are similar in design, use a hemispherical part and a socket which it is meant to slide around in.  The spring tension is part of the overall design of the assembly, and is tuned for feel and longevity of the assembly.

Increasing spring tension on this type of design has the net effect of pulling the hemispherical part more tightly into the socket, which increases friction between the two parts.  Too much tension can cause pre-mature wear, centering issues, etc.  Good lubrication is essential, but may be short lived, as the stronger tension will have the effect of pulling the hemispherical part through the lubrication, and displacing it.

Just wanted to make sure you were aware that increasing spring tension on these types of sticks is not without some consequence.

RandyT

UncleArgyle:

Excellent. Thanks Nephasth for the link. I may just buy a couple different strengths and test them.

RandyT, thanks for the response. I don't play a lot, but the feel is too loose for my liking. If I did end up causing damage to the joystick...I would probably invest in different sticks anyway (does the omni2 have a stiffer throw?).

Thanks,

Mike.

RandyT:


--- Quote from: UncleArgyle on July 27, 2012, 04:14:10 pm ---RandyT, thanks for the response. I don't play a lot, but the feel is too loose for my liking. If I did end up causing damage to the joystick...I would probably invest in different sticks anyway (does the omni2 have a stiffer throw?).

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It does.  It also uses a polished, chrome plated hemispherical part, to increase lubricity and deal with the wear factor.

May I ask if the switches on your Spitfire are the "SmoothJoy" variety?  If so, they are much quieter and smoother in operation than the stock switches, but the stock switches are also more "springy".  If you can deal with the clickiness, you may want to consider the heavier switches, as this will increase the resistance on the stick, without changing the dynamic of the pivot.  The Versa-Micro switches could also be an option, as they have a higher spring tension, and are quiet.

RandyT

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