Tempest and GroovyMame

[TheShaner]

I have done a little digging, and think I have seen issues with 640x480 games, but I havent found anything conclusive.  On my cabinet, if I launch Tempest from groovymame, I get a black screen.  On regular mame, no problem.  Anyone know what the deal is with that?  Is it a common issue with GM?

[krick]

Tempest works on my system, but the bottom of the screen is cut off.  This is a known issue.  I'm not sure why you're getting no picture.

What's your system info?

Video card/GPU
Monitor type/model
Operating System + version

Are you using CRT_EmuDriver?  If so, which version?

Are you using "magic resolutions" with VMMaker?

Are you using Soft15KHz?

Can you grab a log from tempest and attach it here?  Here's the command line...

groovymame.exe tempest -v -md 4 >tempest.txt

[TheShaner]

Here is what I have at my fingertips.  I will get the rest here shortly.

ArcadeVGA 3000 vid card
Makvision 29" 2929D
XP 32bit

Drivers from ultimarc
no magic resolutions or soft15khz

I will get the log here shortly.

Thanks!

[TheShaner]

Parsing mame.ini
SwitchRes: Entering switchres_modeline_setup (0)
SwitchRes: Monitor: cga Orientation: horizontal Aspect 4:3
SwitchRes: MonitorLimits 30000.00-40000.00,47.00-90.00,0.600,2.500,2.800,0.032,0.096,0.448,0,0,640.0,768
SwitchRes: Raw limits (60.0000Hz)-> YresMin= 483p, YresMax= 643p(1286i)
SwitchRes: Logical limit YresMin (768/2) = 384p
SwitchRes: Setup monitor limits min=184x384 max=0x1286
SwitchRes: Starting with Horizontal freq of 29.831 and Vertical refresh of 60.00
SwitchRes: Increased horizontal frequency from 29.831 to 30.000
SwitchRes: Using 3 lines padding
SwitchRes: # 30.000Khz -> 40.000Khz: ( | Hfreq Change | Vpad +3 lines | )
SwitchRes: # tempest [2] 640x480@60.00 30.0000Khz
SwitchRes: ModeLine          "640x480x60.00" 23.280000 640 656 712 776 480 482 485 500 -HSync -VSync

SwitchRes v0.013f: [tempest] (1) vertical (640x480@60.00)->(640x480@60.00)->(640x480@60.00)
SwitchRes: # tempest 640x480@60.00 30.0000Khz
SwitchRes:    ModeLine          "640x480x60.00" 23.280000 640 656 712 776 480 482 485 500 -HSync -VSync
SwitchRes: DefaultVideo 'System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{68355F50-1C03-4546-AE52-F7F03F022BE8}\0000'
SwitchRes: Found -1 custom of 33 active modelines

• SwitchRes: 240 x 240 @ 59p-> 0.00 System Modeline
[1]SwitchRes: 256 x 240 @ 59p-> 0.00 System Modeline
[2]SwitchRes: 256 x 256 @ 59p-> 0.00 System Modeline
[3]SwitchRes: 256 x 264 @ 59p-> 0.00 System Modeline
[4]SwitchRes: 288 x 240 @ 59p-> 0.00 System Modeline
[5]SwitchRes: 296 x 240 @ 59p-> 0.00 System Modeline
[6]SwitchRes: 304 x 240 @ 59p-> 0.00 System Modeline
[7]SwitchRes: 320 x 200 @ 59p-> 0.00 System Modeline
[8]SwitchRes: 320 x 240 @ 59p-> 0.00 System Modeline
[9]SwitchRes: 320 x 256 @ 59p-> 0.00 System Modeline
[10]SwitchRes: 336 x 240 @ 59p-> 0.00 System Modeline
[11]SwitchRes: 352 x 256 @ 59p-> 0.00 System Modeline
[12]SwitchRes: 352 x 264 @ 59p-> 0.00 System Modeline
[13]SwitchRes: 352 x 288 @ 51p-> 0.00 System Modeline
[14]SwitchRes: 368 x 240 @ 59p-> 0.00 System Modeline
[15]SwitchRes: 384 x 288 @ 51p-> 0.00 System Modeline
[16]SwitchRes: 392 x 240 @ 59p-> 0.00 System Modeline
[17]SwitchRes: 400 x 256 @ 53p-> 0.00 System Modeline
[18]SwitchRes: 448 x 240 @ 59p-> 0.00 System Modeline
[19]SwitchRes: 448 x 384 @ 59p-> 0.00 System Modeline
[20]SwitchRes: 512 x 240 @ 59p-> 0.00 System Modeline
[21]SwitchRes: 512 x 288 @ 51p-> 0.00 System Modeline
[22]SwitchRes: 512 x 384 @ 59p-> 0.00 System Modeline
[23]SwitchRes: 512 x 448 @ 59p-> 0.00 System Modeline
[24]SwitchRes: 512 x 512 @ 59p-> 0.00 System Modeline
[25]SwitchRes: 632 x 264 @ 57p-> 0.00 System Modeline
[26]SwitchRes: 640 x 240 @ 59p-> 0.00 System Modeline
[27]SwitchRes: 640 x 288 @ 51p-> 0.00 System Modeline
[28]SwitchRes: 640 x 480 @ 60p-> 98.00 System Modeline
[29]SwitchRes: 648 x 288 @ 59p-> 0.00 System Modeline
[30]SwitchRes: 720 x 480 @ 60p-> 86.89 System Modeline
[31]SwitchRes: 800 x 600 @ 60p-> 58.00 System Modeline
[32]SwitchRes: 1024 x 768 @ 59p-> 23.00 System Modeline
SwitchRes: Index 28/33 modeline SYSTEMMODE640x480x0x60 score 98.00 matches
SwitchRes: Got System modeline  - SYSTEMMODE640x480x0x60:
        "" 0.000000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -HSync -VSync
SwitchRes: Setting Option -redraw 0
SwitchRes: Setting Option -cleanstretch
SwitchRes: Setting Option -rotate
SwitchRes: Disabling VSYNC
SwitchRes: Setting Option -nowaitvsync
SwitchRes: Setting Option -resolution 640x480@60
Video: Monitor 00010001 = "\\.\DISPLAY1" (primary)
Direct3D: Warning - Unable to access d3dx9_43.dll; disabling post-effect rendering
Direct3D: Warning - Unable to get a handle to D3DXCreateEffectFromFileW; disabling post-effect rendering
Direct3D: Using Direct3D 9
window_proc: WM_NCACTIVATE
blit_lock = TRUE
Direct3D: Configuring adapter #0 = Ultimarc ArcadeVGA3000
Direct3D: Using dynamic textures
Direct3D: YUV format = RGB
Direct3D: Device created at 800x600
Direct3D: Max texture size = 8192x8192
blit_unlock = TRUE
DirectSound: Primary buffer: 48000 Hz, 16 bits, 2 channels
RawInput: APIs detected
Input: Adding Mouse #0: HID-compliant mouse
Input: Adding Gun #0: HID-compliant mouse
Input: Adding Mouse #1: HID-compliant mouse
Input: Adding Gun #1: HID-compliant mouse
Input: Adding Mouse #2: HID-compliant mouse
Input: Adding Gun #2: HID-compliant mouse
Input: Adding Mouse #3: HID-compliant mouse
Input: Adding Gun #3: HID-compliant mouse
Input: Adding Kbd #0: HID Keyboard Device
Input: Adding Kbd #1: HID Keyboard Device
DirectInput: Using DirectInput 7
Input: Adding Joy #0: Ultimarc Ultra-Stik Player 1
window_proc: WM_PAINT
blit_lock = FALSE
window_proc: WM_PAINT:END
Region ':maincpu' created
Region ':user1' created
Region ':user2' created
Region ':user3' created
Starting Tempest (rev 3, Revised Hardware) ':'
Optional shared pointer 'paletteram2' not found
Optional shared pointer 'paletteram' not found
Optional shared pointer 'paletteram2' not found
Optional shared pointer 'paletteram' not found
Optional shared pointer 'paletteram2' not found
Optional shared pointer 'paletteram' not found
  (missing dependencies; rescheduling)
Starting M6502 ':maincpu'
Starting ATARI VG EAROM ':earom'
Starting Video Screen ':screen'
Starting MATHBOX ':mathbox'
Starting Speaker ':mono'
  (missing dependencies; rescheduling)
Starting POKEYN ':pokey1'
Starting POKEYN ':pokey2'
Starting Tempest (rev 3, Revised Hardware) ':'
Optional shared pointer 'paletteram2' not found
Optional shared pointer 'paletteram' not found
Optional shared pointer 'paletteram2' not found
Optional shared pointer 'paletteram' not found
Optional shared pointer 'paletteram2' not found
Optional shared pointer 'paletteram' not found
  (missing dependencies; rescheduling)
Starting Speaker ':mono'
Starting Tempest (rev 3, Revised Hardware) ':'
Optional shared pointer 'paletteram2' not found
Optional shared pointer 'paletteram' not found
Optional shared pointer 'paletteram2' not found
Optional shared pointer 'paletteram' not found
Optional shared pointer 'paletteram2' not found
Optional shared pointer 'paletteram' not found
window_proc: WM_NCACTIVATE
blit_lock = TRUE
window_proc: WM_PAINT
window_proc: WM_PAINT:END
window_proc: WM_NCACTIVATE
window_proc: WM_NCACTIVATE
Average speed: 97.58% (31 seconds)
Sound: buffer overflows=8 underflows=2
window_proc: WM_DESTROY
blit_lock = TRUE

[TheShaner]

Anything look out of place?

[TheShaner]

I was doing a little messing around, and it appears that the resolution is acting weird.  In that, the game is running, I just cant see it.  I popped a quarter in and pressed play and I could hear the sounds.  Im wondering if I can force it to another resolution or refresh rate that will allow it to be displayed? 

[krick]

Anything look out of place?

I was hoping the Calamity would chime in.  He's the one who really understands this stuff the best.

The symptoms you describe are what I was seeing when trying to run GroovyMAME on an ATI 4xxx card in DDRAW mode.  Only it happened for ALL games.  If I switched to D3D mode, it worked fine.  Have you tried forcing it to run in D3D mode? 

[Calamity]

Hi TheShaner,

Try using the option -nocleanstretch (only for this game, create a specific ini file).

EDIT: I'm thinking that this option will only work if you type it from command line, adding it to an ini file won't make any difference. Let me know if that's the case.

[TheShaner]

Thanks calamity, that did the trick. I went ahead and added a conditional statement in mala so I am good.

Do you know off the top of your head what the switch is to stretch the game to the full screen?  I have a game or two I'd like to stretch but can't seem to figure out what switch it is.

Thanks!

[Calamity]

When MAME uses d3d the default behaviour is to stretch everything to full screen. In GM we use the -cleanstretch option internally to avoid this, so you just need to add the -nocleanstretch command line param as we did above to revert to the normal behaviour.