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Ernest Borgnine RIP
shmokes:
Agreed. 100%. See below.
--- Quote from: shmokes on July 11, 2012, 12:11:29 am ---It just strikes me as strange that he has a thread dedicated to him . . . . But now it's beginning to strike me as even stranger that I'm in here defending this position so ardently. So I guess I'll stop.
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And yet . . . here I am.
hypernova:
--- Quote from: shmokes on July 11, 2012, 03:13:51 pm ---Apparently more famous than I was aware. I'm skeptical, sure, primarily because I do tend to have a fairly encyclopedic knowledge of Hollywood. But plenty slips through the cracks. It really has little to do with not wanting to admit it. I just find the claims incompatible with the evidence and my own experiences.
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I've been in that boat once or twice. I've got a fairly good (and relatively useless) knowledge of Hollywood as well, and end up hearing a name that's supposedly famous that I've never heard of. Then I see a picture or something about their roles, and I'll recognize them. Like I said, it's rare though. Admittedly, I may not have been able to pick Borgnine's picture out of a lineup of old, slightly less famous (currently) people, but I've heard his name plenty of times over the years.
shmokes:
Exactly the opposite for me. I mean, exactly the same concept, but with name and face reversed. I instantly recognize his face, but I've never known his name. Not like I just forgot it or I couldn't necessarily produce it on command. Seeing his name on this thread wasn't like, "Oh . . . that's right, his name is Ernest Borgnine." It was just a brand new thing. I recognize the actor, but have definitely never known his name.
And that's especially unusual for me, because I have an excellent head for facts, but I'm much less competent with faces (and I'm completely retarded with directions). My wife, on the other hand, never forgets a face. Like, uncanny, never forgets. So she'll be watching, like, an episode of SVU and she'll be like, "That guy is from that one movie. What's that movie with . . . OMG . . . what's his name . . . he's in Star Wars . . . "
"Mark Hamill?"
"No . . . the like . . . good looking guy."
"Harrison Ford?"
"Yeah . . . what's that movie he was in a long time ago where some guy gets murdered in a bathroom or something and an Amish kid witnesses it?"
"The Witness?"
"Oh yeah . . . haha . .. yeah. That guy is the kid from The Witness."
"What? That guy is like 40! You can't tell if he's the kid from the Witness."
"No . . . That's totally him."
And, of course, it's totally him. It's always him. She's never wrong. This sort of thing happens ALL THE TIME. My wife and I play like a six-degrees-of-separation game to get to any movie she's thinking of. Like, "What's the name of such and such movie where such and such happens? Right . . . remember the bad guy in that movie? He was in that other movie with that one black guy, what's that black guy's name? Okay . . . what was the name of the movie he was in where he played a cop tracking down a serial killer?
Malenko:
--- Quote from: shmokes on July 10, 2012, 09:39:23 pm ---I said none of us knew his name. Which I think is almost certainly true, or at least almost none of us knew his name....... And it's not like any of us, not a single one of us, ever in our entire lives went out of our way to watch something because we knew that Ernest Borgnine was in it.
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I knew who he was. Why pigeon hole us all?
I watched Airwolf because of him, Jan Michael Vincent was a :tool:
---smurfing--- AIR WOLF BRO
AIR WOLF
also, he was hilarious in Baseketball.
ark_ader:
--- Quote from: shmokes on July 11, 2012, 04:01:57 pm ---Agreed. Both prolifically and perpetually work well, and both lend some credence to your claim. But I don't think you can make a good argument to complete the alliteration with "prominently". He has not had prominent roles in decades, let alone 2011.
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I will always remember him as Harry Booth in The Black Hole.
Another film that is getting a reboot.