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lilshawn:

--- Quote from: MonMotha on July 09, 2012, 08:17:40 pm ---Wow, I'd forgotten how ridiculously slanted that video was...

The KT133 was getting fairly old by the time they did that test.  The original socket A AMD Athlons required the motherboard/chipset to implement thermal protection using a sensor underneath the CPU package.  The KT133, being a piece of crap, got it pretty wrong, and many motherboards omitted the feature entirely.  Most KT266 based designs seemed to have usable protection, though.  The next-gen AthlonXP had on-die sensing and shutdown, comparable to the P3.

The throttle-down behavior of the P4 was weird.  It was actually done because the things were so high power (for the time) that it was expected that many common designs might experience mild overheating, so the CPU was designed to automatically downclock if that happened.  This was especially true in laptops.  I have an old Compaq that seems to rely on this behavior.  It has a 2.4GHz process...for about 5 seconds until it gets too hot, then it downclocks substantially and is an absolute dog.  Props to Intel for making it work so well that it can handle catastrophic failure of the thermal solution, though.

What really gets me is the excessive blob of thermal paste used on the Athlon.  It seems like it was deliberately applied in order to make it look like the package was "melting" when it clearly was not.

I'm not really an AMD or Intel fan, though I will say I disliked the Pentium 4 due to its excessive heat output.  I tend to just use what works for my application.  My current laptop is a Core2Duo (T9900), my personal server is a little bookshelf Atom box (D510), my home office server uses an i5 2500k, and the server I recently built to go in the co-lo is an AMD Opteron 4280.  All have been very reliable thus far.

My previous system (doubled as a desktop and server) was an Athlon XP 2400+.  It saw continuous duty for about 8 years before it was retired due to instability that I think was related to bad caps on the motherboard (despite replaced many, but not all of them, during the system's lifespan).  It never overheated.  My system before that was a 1GHz P3 that's actually still in operation at my parent's place, though it's scheduled to be retired, soon.

The worst machine I've ever owned in terms of thermal performance was that P4 laptop I mentioned.  It was next to useless for anything other than peaky, casual desktop usage.  If you actually tried to do any work on it, it just overheated and slowed down to the point of being barely usable.

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I have an old P4 i use as my work computer and have had it shutdown on me a few times due to overheating. (motherboard shutting everything down not crashing) but it does it because it's SUPPOSED to

Really it boils down to the motherboard sensing something is going sideways and hittin' the binders before ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- goes sideways. if they cheap out and (like you say) don't bother to place the sensor in the middle of the socket to monitor the CPU temps. Things can get real ugly really fast.

SNAAKE:
after some research I went with the i5 2500. figured that was the best fit for my bro. got an m4 ssd too. that drive gets 7.9 which is pretty impressive. so far its pretty cool too. the intel is around 36-38 and my amd 6core phenom2 is like 50. dunno if thats normal. everything runs fine on my computer tho.

SithMaster:
If it helps anyone I get all my computer advice from these helpful articles.  http://bofh.ntk.net/BOFH/

kahlid74:
I've dabbled into the AMD/ATI world and ran across more issues than I had in the intel/Nvidia world so for now, I stick with Intel and Nvidia.

ChadTower:

Unless you're doing the actual SETI processing (not the screen saver) the difference from one home use CPU to the next is pretty much zero.  Few people at home are ever going to squeeze out that last 3.4% of performance in a meaningful way. 

Look at two that are rated similarly, buy the one that is a better deal, and go make a sandwich.

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