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I'm looking for a theatre display again.....
ChadTower:
I'm not talking about technology advances or image quality. I'm talking about basic hardware and firmware quality. A high end TV should have HDMI firmware without bugs, period. To have contol sync issues in the main interface for a high end TV is inexcusable. That WEGA's HDMI firmware is awful. Then we get to the basic manufacturing quality of the projector itself, which lasted about 2.5 years, and one of the three LCD lenses warped in about 3 years. That's just inexcusable for what is supposed to be a very high end product.
And you can say "RPTV was a flawed concept to begin with" but nobody knew that at the time. How many reports are there of LCDs having to be replaced within 2-3 years? Plasmas too? The build quality is just garbage these days compared to 20 years ago across all of the modern TV types. There is every reason to believe these TVs won't last many years because too high a percentage of them are already dead. I wouldn't mind that if they were in the same price range as TVs 20 years ago but they aren't. (The equivalent of) $1500 televisions barely even existed 20 years ago and now that seems to be the baseline consumer expectation. I go to someone's house and the first thing they want to show me is their $2200 television. Somehow the market has shifted to far higher cost and far less reliability and people are proud of that. It boggles my mind.
shmokes:
I wonder if the problem with the HDMI on that set isn't maybe the hardware, rather than the firmware. When that TV was purchased, I'll bet HDMI was not being used by much of anything. Perhaps that set has HDMI 1.0, or even a non-standard HDMI (sort of like Pre-N wireless routers). Shrug.
At any rate, I think you're pretty safe right now buying a television. Contrary to what your salesperson said, it's not really much of a gamble. LCD and Plasma are both totally solid (though I think the Plasma will have diminished brightness 10 years from now, unless that's no longer applicable). The only questionable tech at the moment is 3D, which isn't standardized across manufacturers and may not be supported with content in the long term. But the extra cost for 3D is pretty negligible. Also it's a pretty stupid feature. So you can easily take it or leave it.
ChadTower:
Not being standardized across manufacturers is what you just said was possibly the issue with HDMI on the WEGA. Why would I want to consider 3D while it's in a similar state of flux?
There are so many reports out there of TVs needing replacement within 18 months that I see no reason to believe it's totally solid. There are basic financial principles at work here. Increased cost + increased risk = decreased value.
shmokes:
--- Quote from: ChadTower on July 10, 2012, 10:51:44 am ---Why would I want to consider 3D while it's in a similar state of flux?
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Because of this:
--- Quote from: shmokes on July 10, 2012, 10:28:09 am ---. . . the extra cost for 3D is pretty negligible. Also it's a pretty stupid feature. So you can easily take it or leave it.
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Granted, if 3D is something that is actually important to you (my gut tells me that it isn't), and you think that it's a feature that will see wide support instead of fading away as a fad, then maybe it's better to hold off a year or two to see what happens.
ChadTower:
--- Quote from: shmokes on July 10, 2012, 11:11:25 am ---Granted, if 3D is something that is actually important to you (my gut tells me that it isn't), and you think that it's a feature that will see wide support instead of fading away as a fad, then maybe it's better to hold off a year or two to see what happens.
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You're right, 3D doesn't matter to me. I spent 20 minutes last night watching a $4500 3D display last night. It's nice, I suppose, but if the $4500 TV didn't move me then the stuff they put into a normal consumer level TV sure won't.
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