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Samstag:
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I'd like to derail the previous derailment to start a discussion on why this image is backwards.
ChadTower:
--- Quote from: ark_ader on June 25, 2012, 06:08:10 pm ---p.s. I can get my old job back without a degree (I have a BSc anyway), but if I want a crack at my bosses job I have to ace this next year. ;D
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Funny thing about engineers. A lot of us don't want the boss' job. I was a manager and left the company to become an engineer again someplace else.
--- Quote ---Just curious: How many of you that work in an IT capacity (management, network, development or 3rd level) take the time out and teach community college?
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Not me.
trekking95:
--- Quote from: Vigo on June 27, 2012, 10:14:36 am ---
--- Quote from: trekking95 on June 27, 2012, 02:43:43 am ---With the tea I would think that there was only one type of Earl Grey, why have different brands when there is no money and no brand competition? It would just be the classic one from back when Earl Grey made it.
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Tea is kinda not just a brand thing though, it varies quite a bit from even where the tea leaves are harvested. The actual original recipe is probably not even known. I'm sure there are multiple tea companies claiming to be the one with the original recipe, but Earl Gray can be pretty much any black tea with a certain type of citrus oil in it.
It would be along the same lines of saying that they can only replicate one type pale ale, one type of black coffee, one type of chocolate bar. While that might be how it works in the Star Trek universe, it only supports my idea that replicator food really blows, and people not stuck on a starship prefer the real thing. They probably have just one lager beer programmed in their replicator as well, and it's probably just Pabst Blue Ribbon.
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True. I don't know how that works. Maybe each crew member can select a favorite of each item that the computer remembers when they replicate it. So they could get the type of leafs, coco beans, ale and whatnot that they like. But then the booze has no alcohol anyway so how would they deal with that? :lol
trekking95:
kahlid74:
--- Quote from: ark_ader on June 25, 2012, 06:08:10 pm ---That was like 5 years ago, and unfortunately things have drastically changed since then. The technology sectors have emptied their redundant resource pools and there is much more competition for positions. If I wanted my old job back I would need a 4 year degree with a 3.0 or higher average and either an A+ or MCP. It is as simple as that. You have an advantage of discussing the subject from within, try looking at it as a qualified Joe looking for a job.
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If it has drastically changed then either I haven't noticed it or the area of the US I work in isn't as affected. Certifications are good, but aren't required. BA is good, but isn't required. Average doesn't matter worth a crap. The last thing looked at when interviewing a prospective employee (Director,Senior,technician, etc.) is an average.
--- Quote from: ark_ader on June 25, 2012, 06:08:10 pm ---It is getting your foot in the door, and if you do not have the bare minimums, good luck!
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Now this is a different subject entirely. Experience reigns supreme in IT. Up to date experience also reigns supreme. Just getting into the field from either college/high school/career change you need to make sure you accept reality, which is you will start in some form of help desk/service desk. Far too many people expect to hop right into administration and engineering once they decide IT is their profession. Some people do go right to those, but they are the minority. The majority of people who have trouble finding jobs in IT are going after positions where their experience doesn't place them.
A fresh out of college with a computer engineering degree and 3.89 average and a CCNP won't land a Senior Network engineering job on my team. A 10 year veteran with a GED, great understanding of network theory and the ability to interact well with me and our team lands it every time.
--- Quote from: ark_ader on June 25, 2012, 06:08:10 pm ---Just curious: How many of you that work in an IT capacity (management, network, development or 3rd level) take the time out and teach community college?
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I taught for about four years but have stopped since my son was born. I'd love to help out again but I've got so many damn hobbies and I want to spend time with my son/wife too so something has to give.
Also I knew Star Trek would at some point work its way into here. The thing to remember about Star Trek is that currency still exists and bartering still exist in the universe, you just don't see much of then on TNG because the focus of the show is so centered on the Enterprise. If you watch Deep Space Nine you'll see currency and bartering occurring all the time.
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