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ark_ader:
--- Quote from: ChadTower on June 25, 2012, 10:40:52 am ---
--- Quote from: drventure on June 23, 2012, 03:06:09 pm ---True, but be careful of putting too much stock into posted position requirements. I've seen many instances where the posted requirements were cobbled up by some HR person who had no idea what the actual requirements for the position really were.
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^^^^ This. After 17 years in software development and IT I can tell you the above is 100% true. The bigger the organization the further the HR person is from the actual jobs. They often don't know a damn thing about what any of the terms, certifications, or technologies mean. It's very common to get an HR person that will mark a candidate off because he said he has "10 years of enterprise java but has never used Maven" where Maven isn't even really a job requirement. Then we end up with a resume with only 1 year of java but claims to be a Maven expert presented as the best candidate.
I have lost count of the amount of times someone has been brought in with a long list of certifications that may as well have been printed on toilet paper because the guy has never been in an actual corporate production environment. Who cares if you took a 3 week class on Server 2003 when you don't understand the functional differences between 32 and 64 bit operating systems? I swear if I have to explain to one more MS Certified Admin WHY a given application platform should run on a 64 bit OS I'm going to punch him. One would think that a guy making 6 figures would just look at the Architecture Document, see 64 bit OS, see the runtime resource requirements, and understand.
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--- Quote from: kahlid74 on June 25, 2012, 03:08:18 pm ---A masters in IT is looked upon highly for positions on the level of eVP/VP/SVP/CIO for 1000+ person companies. Directors, managers, architects, team leads, senior engineers have no need for a masters unless they personally would want one. I've worked at companies of many sizes and this is my direct experience in the field. Your statement above is what I hear from people all the time who describe the IT field but don't actually live in it. It's inaccurate.
I've worked with engineers who have no college degree all the way to those who have masters. It makes little difference. Someone either has the drive for IT or they don't. No amount of certifications/degrees will give them that drive. Just as well no amount of degrees/certs will save them when they get in an interview with me. You either know it or you don't. Even if you don't know it, if I think you can learn it and I like working with you, I'll hire you with a GED if that's all you have.
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Both posts were similar so I just wanted to respond jointly. I agree with you both 100%. I cannot count how many people I had to train fresh from college with no practical and plenty of home but no corporate experience. That was like 5 years ago, and unfortunately things have drastically changed since then. The technology sectors have emptied their redundant resource pools and there is much more competition for positions. If I wanted my old job back I would need a 4 year degree with a 3.0 or higher average and either an A+ or MCP. It is as simple as that. You have an advantage of discussing the subject from within, try looking at it as a qualified Joe looking for a job.
It is getting your foot in the door, and if you do not have the bare minimums, good luck!
p.s. I can get my old job back without a degree (I have a BSc anyway), but if I want a crack at my bosses job I have to ace this next year. ;D
Just curious: How many of you that work in an IT capacity (management, network, development or 3rd level) take the time out and teach community college?
trekking95:
--- Quote from: daywane on June 19, 2012, 10:08:37 pm ---first of all. I need to say I am recovering from a nervous break down.
but I do to have say a thought hit my brain I can not shake.
This might sound stupid at first. But think hard on it.
Question: As a human race , why do we need money?
why can we not produce and consume as needed?
and take as needed.
I see money only as a social status
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You watch Star Trek, right? They get along fine with no money but only after World War 3, warp drive and the Vulcans showing up.
I would just stay with the money. :applaud:
shmokes:
--- Quote from: trekking95 on June 25, 2012, 11:59:26 pm ---You watch Star Trek, right? They get along fine with no money but only after World War 3, warp drive and the Vulcans showing up.
I would just stay with the money. :applaud:
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Ignoring for a moment that anything is possible in fiction . . . the moneyless society in Star Trek has nothing (or at least very little) to do with World War 3, warp drive, or Vulcans. None of those things would have much impact on the utility of money. The existence of the replicator, on the other hand, virtually eliminates material scarcity of any kind. While it's at it, it also eliminates a good percentage of menial jobs. Even still, that society would have to be pretty rigidly structured--in ways that are bound to be considered unfair by a good chunk of the population. In one episode, I think it might have been the series finale, Picard is shown as owning an enormous vineyard on Earth. Obviously most people can not have such a large and desirable piece of property. And the replicator can't very well replicate a big vineyard for you to live on. Moreover, if I recall correctly, this is a family vineyard, i.e., it's been being passed down through the generations. Seems a bit unlikely that money would be eliminated but inheritance and aristocracy would survive.
On the other hand, maybe Picard doesn't own a big vineyard. Maybe it wasn't real--each inhabitant of earth just gets a holodeck, so they can pretty much live however/wherever/whenever they want. Speaking of which, what happens if you spend a long time on the holodeck and you eat a bunch of food, which your body subsequently metabolizes? What happens when you leave the holodeck? It seems like it would be horrible.
Le Chuck:
Holodecks have built in replicators for foodstuffs. Everybody knows that.
shmokes:
That seems problematic. Like, if you're at a restaurant and someone suddenly says, "Computer, end program," it seems like suddenly a bunch of liquid and food would come crashing down to the floor. I suppose they could, like, use the transporter to make it all disappear, but that's obviously not happening in the show. And what if someone's swimming in a big lake in the holodeck when another crew member unwittingly opens the door from the other side? The lake would have to be replicated (cos the water could easily be ingested), but once the door opened, without the rule of holodeck matter ceasing to exist outside the holodeck, millions upon millions of gallons of water would come rushing into the halls of the star ship. That could have serious health and safety implications.
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