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wesbrown18:


--- Quote from: SlammedNiss on April 27, 2013, 04:30:03 pm ---I appreciate all the replies. Also, considering this is a build-on-a-budget, purchasing an Intel CPU at this time is not in budget, as I'd also have to purchase a new MB (I already have a compatible AM2/AM3 MB that I got for free). With that said, I've decided to go ahead a hold off on buying one at this time, at least until I'm further along in the project and can see a light at the end of the tunnel. There are many moons that need to align before this project gets even close to being completed.


--- Quote from: Diet_Pepsi on April 27, 2013, 05:22:18 am ---What model numbers are we talking about?  If, say, you ask me to choose between the phenom 1045t and the phenom 965, for mame use, I would choose the 965 every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

What c2d do you have lying around?  Depending on what games you are looking to play that cpu may be able to handle the job and save you some cash.

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I was looking at the 1045T X6 and the FX4100 X4, as my MB only supports up to 95w CPU's. My c2d is a 2.2ghz w/ 2gb of ram.

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Seriously, if all you can afford is an AMD, then get an AMD.  People on this thread keep acting as if AMD was dog ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- -- it isn't.  The price/performance ratio is far superior to Intel -- Intel *will* give you better performance, but it is also far more costly on the low end.

The question that you asked was 'which AMD processor' -- the answer is, the higher clocked, the better.  You will do better with four cores at higher clocks than six cores at lower clocks.  I use a quad-core AMD Llano A8, which isn't even quite as fast as a Phenom, and it's enough to play the 3D games that I want to play without breaking a sweat.  Mind you, this was on Linux -- the rest of y'all may be getting different results from me because of Windows.

Don't wait too long on the processor, unless you are planning on a different motherboard later.  I've observed that once RAM and CPUs get past a certain point, it actually gets more expensive to acquire new until it becomes an antique.



WindDrake:

The 6-Core FX-6200 AMD CPU should pretty much smash anything you come across.

AMD makes great hardware. Not sure why people dog on it so hard. I run my company's engineering department (laptop/desktop repair, my department does the component level. PCB, and BGA repair) and I'd much rather deal with an AMD board than an Intel.

ICH8-10 were great, but the manufacturing quality on the H55/57, H65/67, and H75/77 have been pretty terrible (Huron River, Sandy Bridge, Ivy Bridge).

AMD on the other hand has been consistently putting out tough, dependable hardware once they got out of the IXP450/460 Mobile Era (5+ years ago).

Sure, this is in my line of work, but when you're judging for reliability as well as speed, these are important things to know.

SlammedNiss:


--- Quote from: wesbrown18 on April 27, 2013, 11:55:46 pm ---Seriously, if all you can afford is an AMD, then get an AMD.  People on this thread keep acting as if AMD was dog ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- -- it isn't.  The price/performance ratio is far superior to Intel -- Intel *will* give you better performance, but it is also far more costly on the low end.

The question that you asked was 'which AMD processor' -- the answer is, the higher clocked, the better.  You will do better with four cores at higher clocks than six cores at lower clocks.  I use a quad-core AMD Llano A8, which isn't even quite as fast as a Phenom, and it's enough to play the 3D games that I want to play without breaking a sweat.  Mind you, this was on Linux -- the rest of y'all may be getting different results from me because of Windows.

Don't wait too long on the processor, unless you are planning on a different motherboard later.  I've observed that once RAM and CPUs get past a certain point, it actually gets more expensive to acquire new until it becomes an antique.

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You know, you're right. I'm just gonna have the wife stop by Micro Center and pick up the FX4100 tomorrow on her way home from a friends. They're the cheapest @ $70, where Newegg and TD are both $30+ more. I'll just sell off the C2D I was going to use to offset the cost. I don't see where going from a duo 2.2 to a quad 3.6 for little to no upgrade costs is a bad thing. Besides that, it looks like the OEM heatsink+fan will net me another $20 or so on the'Bay.

404:

just compile your own mame build and set the flags for the processor and cores of your choice.

http://www.headsoft.com.au/?category=mame&page=mc64

wesbrown18:


--- Quote from: WindDrake on April 28, 2013, 12:25:29 am ---The 6-Core FX-6200 AMD CPU should pretty much smash anything you come across.

AMD makes great hardware. Not sure why people dog on it so hard. I run my company's engineering department (laptop/desktop repair, my department does the component level. PCB, and BGA repair) and I'd much rather deal with an AMD board than an Intel.

ICH8-10 were great, but the manufacturing quality on the H55/57, H65/67, and H75/77 have been pretty terrible (Huron River, Sandy Bridge, Ivy Bridge).

AMD on the other hand has been consistently putting out tough, dependable hardware once they got out of the IXP450/460 Mobile Era (5+ years ago).

Sure, this is in my line of work, but when you're judging for reliability as well as speed, these are important things to know.

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Amen to this.  For my $DAYJOB, we have literally hundreds of AMD 6200 and 6300's in a high density blade environment.  Intel offers more perforce, but would have cost us quadruple.  The CPUs have been reliable with 24x7 pedal to the metal operations - other things like the RAM and the motherboard and the Infiniband NIC have failed, but not the CPUs.


--- Quote from: SlammedNiss on April 28, 2013, 05:10:28 am ---You know, you're right. I'm just gonna have the wife stop by Micro Center and pick up the FX4100 tomorrow on her way home from a friends. They're the cheapest @ $70, where Newegg and TD are both $30+ more. I'll just sell off the C2D I was going to use to offset the cost. I don't see where going from a duo 2.2 to a quad 3.6 for little to no upgrade costs is a bad thing. Besides that, it looks like the OEM heatsink+fan will net me another $20 or so on the'Bay.

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Right.  You were looking at $200+ for comparable performance in the form of a new motherboard and CPU from Intel.

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