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| c0dehunter:
I have ton of extra memory modules, so that is not an issue. I know that WinXP x32 bit can no utilize more than 3GB memory. Yes, for real arcade monitors, when using 15Khz, you need WinXP, Win7 messed up the resolutions badly. See here: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=120336.msg1276183#msg1276183 I am using my AMD machine with a Commodore 1084S-D1 RGB monitor (connected via a custom made VGA->RGB cable) and the image quality is astounding, very much like the actual arcade games. My main interests are good ol' 2D games (shooters, fighting) and who cares if my setup can't run a handful of newer 3D games. If I wanted to play those, I would play them on my other machine (Intel i7, GEFORCE 570). Thanks! |
| paigeoliver:
--- Quote from: BadMouth on June 16, 2012, 07:12:37 pm --- --- Quote from: c0dehunter on June 16, 2012, 11:07:17 am ---The thing that I don't understand is that how can a 31 years old game, such as FROGGER run any faster/better on an Intel platform and 'smoke' an AMD system? --- End quote --- Frogger will run the same on an i2500k or the cheapest single core budget CPU. Same goes for all the classics and 2D fighters. It's not until you get to the 3D games that you will see the difference. (The CPU is emulating both a faster processor and the 3D video card that was in the original machine). If you can run NFL Blitz at full speed, you're doing better than most. If you can run Ridge Racer at full speed, you're among the best. --- End quote --- And that is where the point of the whole thing sort of breaks down for me. The 3D era games are 75 percent driving, 15 percent sports and maybe 10 percent "Other". Specialty controls are the norm for most of them, which means even if you can play them, you probably still can't play them. Then the final nail in the coffin is the fact that the 3D era arcade titles didn't age well at all. Why emulate Blitz or Ridge Racer on a $3000 system when you can buy pc games in the same genre that absolutely blow those titles away in nearly all aspects and that will run on a $200 budget system. |
| MonMotha:
I still love the old NFL Blitz titles. I think it's aged rather well. The graphics suck by modern standards, of course, but it's still really fun to play, and I think the control schema is more fun (if more clumsy) than the schema used on modern console football sim titles, including the new Blitz games (which are fun in their own right). As for AMD vs. Intel, if you want a performance desktop, there's little reason to buy AMD right now. AMD is currently shining in the integrated CPU/GPU market (which can be handy in laptops and low cost systems), low power (Bobcat e.g. E-350) with decent performance (it'll blow the Atom 5xx series away, though apparently the new Atoms are actually worth something), or if you want a low cost system with "enterprise" features like full virtualization (including IOMMU), ECC RAM, etc., which you can get on mid-range AMD parts but have to buy expensive Xeons from Intel to get. The new "Bulldozer" architecture does shine on certain workloads, but in general, an Ivy Bridge will kick its butt in terms of sheer performance. |
| nick3092:
--- Quote from: paigeoliver on June 16, 2012, 11:01:56 pm ---Why emulate Blitz or Ridge Racer on a $3000 system when you can buy pc games in the same genre that absolutely blow those titles away in nearly all aspects and that will run on a $200 budget system. --- End quote --- Nostalgia. Sure, I can play GT5 in my PS3. But that doesnt bring back the feeling I had playing Ridge Racer at Aladdin's Castle. Actually, by your logic, we shouldnt play any emulated games. In fact, we should just tell MAME dev to stop. There are better games available now, so why bother? |
| mytymaus007:
--- Quote from: BadMouth on June 16, 2012, 07:12:37 pm --- --- Quote from: c0dehunter on June 16, 2012, 11:07:17 am ---The thing that I don't understand is that how can a 31 years old game, such as FROGGER run any faster/better on an Intel platform and 'smoke' an AMD system? --- End quote --- Frogger will run the same on an i2500k or the cheapest single core budget CPU. Same goes for all the classics and 2D fighters. It's not until you get to the 3D games that you will see the difference. (The CPU is emulating both a faster processor and the 3D video card that was in the original machine). If you can run NFL Blitz at full speed, you're doing better than most. If you can run Ridge Racer at full speed, you're among the best. As far as flagship CPU models go, Intel is way out front and the architecture is so small now that there isn't much room for AMD to leapfrog again. Look at some of the charts on tomshardware for unbiased performance tests and see how your processor stacks up: http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-2010/benchmarks,112.html That said, everything I've built for emulation or jukebox has used an AMD because it provided a better value at the time. I have 3.4Ghz Athlon X3 budget builds (around $250 for the whole PC) in two of my setups and they run everything but the most demanding 3D games. (Tekken 3 runs fine, NFL Blitz is playable, but has some sound issues. Ridge Racer isn't playable.) Right now, it isn't worth it to me to spend hundreds more just to have 3 or 4 more games playable. (and another batch on the edge of playable :angry: ) You are never going to have everything in MAME playable at 100% speed. It's just not possible. There will always be things that are emulated before there are computers fast enough to run the emulation at full speed. I'd put the number you'll be fine at much higher than 90%. Seriously, there are probably only going to be three or four games that you'd even think of playing that won't run at 100% on your computer, but would on an i2500k. --- End quote --- My bad if you want to play mostly classic games common sense you can use an older system (AMD , intel) what ever! and use an older version of MAME i think .106 and before. Bbut if plan to go the extra mile and you are spending money already on your entire cabinet which if you do it nice it will cost a nice penny you might as well spend a couple of dollars more to future proof you arcade cabinet. OH i forgot to mention if you plan on running any of the new console emulators and a front end thats is the only worthy one to run (Hyperspin) then youll want an i5 intel Mines runs amazing never an issue! |
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