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| Xiaou2:
--- Quote ---Shifting with a button works great, and I guarantee is faster than shifting with your hand. --- End quote --- Sorry, but it does not work as well as you think. I have a dedicated machine, and I have Tried to use other methods with the pc.. and they dont compare. Its not merely about speed. Its about the fact that you already have your hands full of things happening.. and have to reach out to accurately shift. The lever makes that easy, comfortable, and superior. You also dont have to memorize more button locations. Memory fails often under stress. --- Quote ---As even less buttons than you mentioned are necessary - you can only have one weapon at a time, hence a dedicated button for each weapon is cosmetic - you need only three: machine gun, weapon, and shift. A yoke has four. --- End quote --- WRONG!!! YOU can have ALL the weapons at the same time. Its just that Obviously you are not good enough to keep them all long enough to attain them all. Machine Guns Smoke Screen Oil Missiles (I guess you never shot down the helicopter either?) --- Quote ---As for throttle, I think using the Y-axis works great for throttle. (You don't have a throttle problem, you have a lack of stool problem.) The only reason I haven't scored above 35k is because there's a slop/dead zone in the center of my X-axis. I haven't bothered to take it apart.... --- End quote --- You obviously have a problem playing, considering you cant hold more than one special weapon, have not had / used missiles, etc. Did you even know theres a Boat stage? Icy Roads? Did you know that the Van has an icon on top of it, so you know what weapon it carries? Did you know that you can bump a switchblade car off the road - even if he is mostly behind you, by clipping the very front of his car, and not getting killed by his blades? Did you know that The Oil slick isnt limited by a number of presses... that it actually runs out based on volume. If you only press it quickly and release it immediately, you can make it last a Lot longer. Oil also turns into a wall of fire out in the boat stage. Did you know that the game tracks how fast you turn the wheel.. and that speed is calculated into how hard you BUMP another car? So if you slam the wheel hard and fast as possible, the other cars will be pushed away further. And if you barely bump them at all, the enemy cars slam will overpower your bump, and you will be the one moving. Did you know that if you keep under a certain speed... that you will bump off pedestrians rather than die from a wreck? Have you ever shot a pedestrian to use as a projectile against the trailing enemy cars? Did you know that if you shoot the Van as you are entering it... it will still give you a weapon... them will blow up after you exit? A real pedal is needed to actually play the game Well. Hook up a set, and find out for real, rather than making up baseless opinions. |
| BadMouth:
My problem with the shifter being a toggle is that I lose track of what gear I'm in, even with the added onscreen display. I lose time by accidentally downshifting when I'm already in high gear and starting out in high gear without knowing it. I'm sure the toggle works better for those with gamepads, but I do better when I have a real shifter. The shifter makes no differnece for me on Spy Hunter. I suck at it either way. (you definitely know when you're in high gear on that game!) |
| mytymaus007:
--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on June 05, 2012, 08:50:47 pm --- --- Quote ---Shifting with a button works great, and I guarantee is faster than shifting with your hand. --- End quote --- Sorry, but it does not work as well as you think. I have a dedicated machine, and I have Tried to use other methods with the pc.. and they dont compare. Its not merely about speed. Its about the fact that you already have your hands full of things happening.. and have to reach out to accurately shift. The lever makes that easy, comfortable, and superior. You also dont have to memorize more button locations. Memory fails often under stress. --- Quote ---As even less buttons than you mentioned are necessary - you can only have one weapon at a time, hence a dedicated button for each weapon is cosmetic - you need only three: machine gun, weapon, and shift. A yoke has four. --- End quote --- WRONG!!! YOU can have ALL the weapons at the same time. Its just that Obviously you are not good enough to keep them all long enough to attain them all. Machine Guns Smoke Screen Oil Missiles (I guess you never shot down the helicopter either?) --- Quote ---As for throttle, I think using the Y-axis works great for throttle. (You don't have a throttle problem, you have a lack of stool problem.) The only reason I haven't scored above 35k is because there's a slop/dead zone in the center of my X-axis. I haven't bothered to take it apart.... --- End quote --- You obviously have a problem playing, considering you cant hold more than one special weapon, have not had / used missiles, etc. Did you even know theres a Boat stage? Icy Roads? Did you know that the Van has an icon on top of it, so you know what weapon it carries? Did you know that you can bump a switchblade car off the road - even if he is mostly behind you, by clipping the very front of his car, and not getting killed by his blades? Did you know that The Oil slick isnt limited by a number of presses... that it actually runs out based on volume. If you only press it quickly and release it immediately, you can make it last a Lot longer. Oil also turns into a wall of fire out in the boat stage. Did you know that the game tracks how fast you turn the wheel.. and that speed is calculated into how hard you BUMP another car? So if you slam the wheel hard and fast as possible, the other cars will be pushed away further. And if you barely bump them at all, the enemy cars slam will overpower your bump, and you will be the one moving. Did you know that if you keep under a certain speed... that you will bump off pedestrians rather than die from a wreck? Have you ever shot a pedestrian to use as a projectile against the trailing enemy cars? Did you know that if you shoot the Van as you are entering it... it will still give you a weapon... them will blow up after you exit? A real pedal is needed to actually play the game Well. Hook up a set, and find out for real, rather than making up baseless opinions. --- End quote --- Exxcellent write up love all those weapons this is a great game!So back to the shifter IF i get star wars yoke and analog pedal the only thing left is the shifter. Will a 4 speed shifter work only using 1st and 2nd gear or should i just use a button in its place |
| Xiaou2:
--- Quote ---My problem with the shifter being a toggle is that I lose track of what gear I'm in, even with the added onscreen display. I lose time by accidentally downshifting when I'm already in high gear and starting out in high gear without knowing it. I'm sure the toggle works better for those with gamepads, but I do better when I have a real shifter. --- End quote --- I agree with everything said here. The toggle mode is Stupid and Useless... especially for this game. There should be a real shifter mode hands down. Its a disgrace. --- Quote ---The shifter makes no differnece for me on Spy Hunter. I suck at it either way. (you definitely know when you're in high gear on that game!) --- End quote --- Everyone loses at SH. Thats why its so great. Its no-mercy. Even the best players can get completely blindsided in a single moment of the Perfect Storm of crazy event sequences. The AI in that game is some of the best ever seen. However, play enough time on the game consecutively, with the proper controls.. and eventually you get the hang of things to survive pretty darn long. A tip: Before shifting to high gear, reduce your speed drastically. This will put you at the lower end of high gear, keeping you at a safe speed, rather than at the insane warp 9 that its capable of :) Good pedal control is also key.. Because you have to be able to quickly vary, so that you dont wreck into other cars.. yet still be able to outrun a baddie in a quick-burst motion. Its a fast intense game, full of non-stop action. Really gets you pumped up. |
| Gray_Area:
Last time I tested, it traded one weapon for the other. Yes I've shot down the helicopter. Yes, I've gotten to the boat stage. I haven't seen it in a while, for some reason or other. I don't think it's that tough a game. I don't play very often because my yoke has a dead spot in the middle. |
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