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BadMouth:


--- Quote from: mytymaus007 on June 03, 2012, 10:38:41 pm ---so as of right now there is no solution until mame supports true 2 way arcade shifter if ever! doesnt the HAPP shifter the one that goes back to the middle after pushing it up or down act as 2 buttons im not sure but i thought it did

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The shifter issue and fixes are in the first post of the driving cab thread that you posted in.
I had a modified version of MAME v.144 with the shifter fixed (applying Dmod's diff file by hand), but it was stored on Megaupload so it's gone.

Spy Hunter requires one of the old Hi/Lo shifters that stayed in place.
Most of them only had one switch in them.  If that switch wasn't closed, the game defaulted to low speed.

If you're focused on Spy Hunter, it might not be a bad idea to get one that had a button in the shift handle.

The shifter you have will work, but it will just flip back and forth between the gears whenever it's pushed in either direction.
Whether you're moving the shifter up or down will make no difference, it willl just toggle to whatever gear is opposite of the one you're in.
I found that I enjoyed the games much more and made it farther in them with the shifter working correctly though.

mytymaus007:


--- Quote from: BadMouth on June 04, 2012, 08:09:06 am ---
--- Quote from: mytymaus007 on June 03, 2012, 10:38:41 pm ---so as of right now there is no solution until mame supports true 2 way arcade shifter if ever! doesnt the HAPP shifter the one that goes back to the middle after pushing it up or down act as 2 buttons im not sure but i thought it did

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The shifter issue and fixes are in the first post of the driving cab thread that you posted in.
I had a modified version of MAME v.144 with the shifter fixed (applying Dmod's diff file by hand), but it was stored on Megaupload so it's gone.

Spy Hunter requires one of the old Hi/Lo shifters that stayed in place.
Most of them only had one switch in them.  If that switch wasn't closed, the game defaulted to low speed.

If you're focused on Spy Hunter, it might not be a bad idea to get one that had a button in the shift handle.

The shifter you have will work, but it will just flip back and forth between the gears whenever it's pushed in either direction.
Whether you're moving the shifter up or down will make no difference, it willl just toggle to whatever gear is opposite of the one you're in.
I found that I enjoyed the games much more and made it farther in them with the shifter working correctly though.

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What about a 4 speed shifter if you just use 1st and second gear would that solve the problem or is that  an issue also?

BadMouth:


--- Quote from: mytymaus007 on June 04, 2012, 09:50:28 pm ---What about a 4 speed shifter if you just use 1st and second gear would that solve the problem or is that  an issue also?

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That's what I use and I like it.  However, the fact that the shifter is set up as a toggle in MAME must still be addressed.

mytymaus007:


--- Quote from: BadMouth on June 04, 2012, 10:43:17 pm ---
--- Quote from: mytymaus007 on June 04, 2012, 09:50:28 pm ---What about a 4 speed shifter if you just use 1st and second gear would that solve the problem or is that  an issue also?

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That's what I use and I like it.  However, the fact that the shifter is set up as a toggle in MAME must still be addressed.

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so would a 4 speed shifter and a few buttons next to the shifter work with all analog driving games if i use the yoke for a steering wheel, so for spy hunter i would just use a button on CP for shifting purposes. just thinking of the best alll around situation for Analog driving games and shifting.

Gray_Area:


--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on June 03, 2012, 09:39:26 pm ---
--- Quote ---Works just fine for me in MAME. Same in Outrun.
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 What works, and what plays / controls good, are two very different things.

 Outrun is a fairly simply leisurely game.  Spyhunter is Not.  Its cut-throat brutal.  Theres
no room for even the tinyest variant mistake or delay.

 Even with perfect controls, on my actual machine, Spy Hunter whoops me pretty darn good... and Im no slouch on the thing.   Sadly I have the standup.  My Buddie has the Sitdown, and it helps even more, because you dont the issue of standing on one leg while playing.


 Sadly, mame does not currently support true 2way arcade shifters.  You have to use some sort of hardware modification and or hack to get them to work. Too sad.

 Games like Outrun, you dont need to shift too often... but with SH, you have to shift like a madman, to escape issue constantly.  Using buttons to shift just isnt a viable option.  Theres way too many buttons as it is.. and, buttons just dont feel right either.


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Shifting with a button works great, and I guarantee is faster than shifting with your hand.  As even less buttons than you mentioned are necessary - you can only have one weapon at a time, hence a dedicated button for each weapon is cosmetic - you need only three: machine gun, weapon, and shift. A yoke has four.

As for throttle, I think using the Y-axis works great for throttle. (You don't have a throttle problem, you have a lack of stool problem.) The only reason I haven't scored above 35k is because there's a slop/dead zone in the center of my X-axis. I haven't bothered to take it apart....

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